12 Apr
2016
12 Apr
'16
2:09 p.m.
A local recycling center called me and said they are to pick up an ibm
as/400 mainframe from a working environment. I left a deposit and am
scheduled to go pick it up in the next day or so.
I am not even sure of what all it comes with or what can be run on the
machine. Any advice in advance on what to expect?
I realize there are a ton of different as/400 models, they were not very
descript on the phone, so i have no way of knowing till i go pick it up
what exactly it is or what it comes with.
I rushed on dropping a deposit on the thing. The other guy at the place is
notorious for ripping boards with shiny chips out and trying to pass off
the dismantled machine to me. I asked for a picture of the thing on site
before it is moved. If it is not all there I am not purchasing it.
From the description it sounds like it comes with some
terminals and
printers too. could be interesting.
Is the guy that put the ibm mainframe in his basement on the list? ive been
wanting to talk to him.
--Devin
12 Apr
12 Apr
2:51 p.m.
Hello,
I do believe Connor is on here. I will say this the IBM Mainframes and the
Large AS/400's are quite different. If you can get a picture of the front
plate where it says AS/400 there will be the model nuimber under that and
we can figure out what you have from that.
Once you have that info, we can have a better idea what you are in for :)
As such can help you accordingly.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com> wrote:
A local recycling center called me and said they are
to pick up an ibm
as/400 mainframe from a working environment. I left a deposit and am
scheduled to go pick it up in the next day or so.
I am not even sure of what all it comes with or what can be run on the
machine. Any advice in advance on what to expect?
I realize there are a ton of different as/400 models, they were not very
descript on the phone, so i have no way of knowing till i go pick it up
what exactly it is or what it comes with.
I rushed on dropping a deposit on the thing. The other guy at the place is
notorious for ripping boards with shiny chips out and trying to pass off
the dismantled machine to me. I asked for a picture of the thing on site
before it is moved. If it is not all there I am not purchasing it.
From the description it sounds like it comes with some terminals and
printers too. could be interesting.
Is the guy that put the ibm mainframe in his basement on the list? ive been
wanting to talk to him.
--Devin
--
Matt Patoray
Owner, MSP Productions
KD8AMG Amateur Radio Call Sign
3:08 p.m.
?Gotcha. i didn't want something interesting to get away so i kinda
reserved it without knowing exactly what it is yet. I will post back with
the model, thanks.
3:17 p.m.
New subject: R: Getting an ibm as/400
The main issue with As/400 is related with licenses, os included.
There are some models (relatively old) that can run unlicensed (and going back in time,
some required a special tape unique to that serial number, to be reinstalled. Fat chances
of getting a copy of that from ibm now, so in those cases is very important that such tape
is present in the goodies), otherwise I would say that if they pick up the "toy"
from the current workplace, they have to collect all the sw/ibm media/license papers
related to it.
There's more than one way to get an (heavy) paperweight.
What to expect... is a bit more flat than zos, this is something used for erp/billing/bank
terminals to say something.
There's just os/400 that can be installed on an as/400, forget linux or etc ( if an
iseries, more recent, aix is also an option, and linux too )
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Inviato: marted? 12 aprile 2016 20:52
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
Hello,
I do believe Connor is on here. I will say this the IBM Mainframes and the Large
AS/400's are quite different. If you can get a picture of the front plate where it
says AS/400 there will be the model nuimber under that and we can figure out what you have
from that.
Once you have that info, we can have a better idea what you are in for :) As such can help
you accordingly.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com> wrote:
A local recycling center called me and said they are
to pick up an ibm
as/400 mainframe from a working environment. I left a deposit and am
scheduled to go pick it up in the next day or so.
I am not even sure of what all it comes with or what can be run on the
machine. Any advice in advance on what to expect?
I realize there are a ton of different as/400 models, they were not
very descript on the phone, so i have no way of knowing till i go pick
it up what exactly it is or what it comes with.
I rushed on dropping a deposit on the thing. The other guy at the
place is notorious for ripping boards with shiny chips out and trying
to pass off the dismantled machine to me. I asked for a picture of the
thing on site before it is moved. If it is not all there I am not purchasing it.
From the description it sounds like it comes with some terminals and
printers too. could be interesting.
Is the guy that put the ibm mainframe in his basement on the list? ive
been wanting to talk to him.
--Devin
--
Matt Patoray
Owner, MSP Productions
KD8AMG Amateur Radio Call Sign
3:46 p.m.
Yeah i wanted to talk directly with the place it is coming from but they
are being very secretive and swear that all the drives have to be wiped.
they said some drives had to be destroyed. I believe it is coming from
Harris, so it makes sense. Still trying to get every single scrap of paper
and tapes to go with it if i can.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
The main issue with As/400 is related with licenses,
os included.
There are some models (relatively old) that can run unlicensed (and going
back in time, some required a special tape unique to that serial number, to
be reinstalled. Fat chances of getting a copy of that from ibm now, so in
those cases is very important that such tape is present in the goodies),
otherwise I would say that if they pick up the "toy" from the current
workplace, they have to collect all the sw/ibm media/license papers related
to it.
There's more than one way to get an (heavy) paperweight.
What to expect... is a bit more flat than zos, this is something used for
erp/billing/bank terminals to say something.
There's just os/400 that can be installed on an as/400, forget linux or
etc ( if an iseries, more recent, aix is also an option, and linux too )
-----Messaggio originale-----
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Patoray
Inviato: marted? 12 aprile 2016 20:52
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
Hello,
I do believe Connor is on here. I will say this the IBM Mainframes and the
Large AS/400's are quite different. If you can get a picture of the front
plate where it says AS/400 there will be the model nuimber under that and
we can figure out what you have from that.
Once you have that info, we can have a better idea what you are in for :)
As such can help you accordingly.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com>
wrote:
A local recycling center called me and said they
are to pick up an ibm
as/400 mainframe from a working environment. I left a deposit and am
scheduled to go pick it up in the next day or so.
I am not even sure of what all it comes with or what can be run on the
machine. Any advice in advance on what to expect?
I realize there are a ton of different as/400 models, they were not
very descript on the phone, so i have no way of knowing till i go pick
it up what exactly it is or what it comes with.
I rushed on dropping a deposit on the thing. The other guy at the
place is notorious for ripping boards with shiny chips out and trying
to pass off the dismantled machine to me. I asked for a picture of the
thing on site before it is moved. If it is not all there I am not
purchasing it.
From the description it sounds like it comes with some terminals and
printers too. could be interesting.
Is the guy that put the ibm mainframe in his basement on the list? ive
been wanting to talk to him.
--Devin
--
Matt Patoray
Owner, MSP Productions
KD8AMG Amateur Radio Call Sign
6:20 p.m.
New subject: R: Getting an ibm as/400
Wiped drives is something you can live with ( if you get the licenses - paper sheets btw
).
Destroyed drives is another thing. As/400 require specific IBM scsi hard disks. You
cannot use anything else... don't even try to put a normal hd inside.
And never try to format an as/400 hd in a normal pc, or byebye (particular amount of
bytes/sector, in theory no way to do outside of the factory)
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Inviato: marted? 12 aprile 2016 21:47
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
Yeah i wanted to talk directly with the place it is coming from but they are being very
secretive and swear that all the drives have to be wiped.
they said some drives had to be destroyed. I believe it is coming from Harris, so it makes
sense. Still trying to get every single scrap of paper and tapes to go with it if i can.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
The main issue with As/400 is related with licenses,
os included.
There are some models (relatively old) that can run unlicensed (and
going back in time, some required a special tape unique to that serial
number, to be reinstalled. Fat chances of getting a copy of that from
ibm now, so in those cases is very important that such tape is present
in the goodies), otherwise I would say that if they pick up the "toy"
from the current workplace, they have to collect all the sw/ibm
media/license papers related to it.
There's more than one way to get an (heavy) paperweight.
What to expect... is a bit more flat than zos, this is something used
for erp/billing/bank terminals to say something.
There's just os/400 that can be installed on an as/400, forget linux
or etc ( if an iseries, more recent, aix is also an option, and linux
too )
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Matt
Patoray
Inviato: marted? 12 aprile 2016 20:52
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
Hello,
I do believe Connor is on here. I will say this the IBM Mainframes and
the Large AS/400's are quite different. If you can get a picture of
the front plate where it says AS/400 there will be the model nuimber
under that and we can figure out what you have from that.
Once you have that info, we can have a better idea what you are in for
:) As such can help you accordingly.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM, devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com>
wrote:
A local recycling center called me and said they
are to pick up an
ibm
as/400 mainframe from a working environment. I left a deposit and am
scheduled to go pick it up in the next day or so.
I am not even sure of what all it comes with or what can be run on
the machine. Any advice in advance on what to expect?
I realize there are a ton of different as/400 models, they were not
very descript on the phone, so i have no way of knowing till i go
pick it up what exactly it is or what it comes with.
I rushed on dropping a deposit on the thing. The other guy at the
place is notorious for ripping boards with shiny chips out and
trying to pass off the dismantled machine to me. I asked for a
picture of the thing on site before it is moved. If it is not all
there I am not
purchasing it.
From the description it sounds like it comes with some terminals and
printers too. could be interesting.
Is the guy that put the ibm mainframe in his basement on the list?
ive been wanting to talk to him.
--Devin
--
Matt Patoray
Owner, MSP Productions
KD8AMG Amateur Radio Call Sign
12 Apr
12 Apr
9:59 p.m.
Devin,
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 02:09:00PM -0400, devin davison wrote:
A local recycling center called me and said they are
to pick up an ibm
as/400 mainframe from a working environment.
An AS/400 is a mini, not a mainframe.
I left a deposit and am scheduled to go pick it up in
the next day or so.
Congratulations!!
Where I work we've continued to use the name AS/400 for our newer boxes,
even though IBM keeps changing the name.
At home I have a small 9406-270 in my living room. I think it's technically
an iSeries. Sadly I didn't get license keys with it, so I have to reinstall
the OS every 70 days. It's powered down at the moment and overdue for a
reinstall. It also has some flaky memory, but seems to recover gracefully
from the memory errors without crashing. I'd love
to have a true AS/400, if
I had the room and power for one.
I am not even sure of what all it comes with or what
can be run on the
machine. Any advice in advance on what to expect?
Depending on its vintage it would run OS/400, i5/OS, or IBM i.
From the description it sounds like it comes with some
terminals and
printers too. could be interesting.
As others have said, be sure to get all the cables, etc. The terminals and
printers will be connected with twinax cables.
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.Lassie.xyz
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
10:30 a.m.
I called in again yesterday night, still not ready to pick up though. The
guy assured me the drives were being wiped not removed, which is good.
How does the whold 70 day licence thing work. Is that a specific limitation
to os/400 or built into the hardware of the machine itself?
10:41 a.m.
Hi Devin,
I myself have several hobbyist machines, and I know a few other people who
do.
The 70 day timebomb is set by the OS and the different software packages
you install. So, let's say, you install the OS, the development tools and
Client Access. Each of them will have their own 70 day time bomb, after
which you will have to enter a license key which is tied to your hardware
serial number (and some other things). The 70 day time period starts when
you first start a product, so let's say, you only used Client Access on the
10th day after you started the OS, then that's when your 70 day time period
starts for that product.
After the 70 day time period ends, you'll have to reinstall.
It is very likely your machine will come with a tape drive. If possible,
try to see if you can find tapes for it (maybe they come with it?). This
way you can create a distribution tape from your installation CDs, which
makes reinstalling a lot more painless - the OS comes on six or so CDs,
which you'll have to swap during install. You'll probably lose about half a
day to a day to go through that.
As said before, try to look for the license keys in the documentation from
the machine. They are in the format *XXXXX-XXXXXXX-XXXXX, *and can be used
to disable that time bomb. If you can, try to pick it up when someone who
actually knows the machine is around so you can ask someone knowledgeable.
You want to ask for LICKEYs.
Wrt. the terminals, make sure you get all the cabling. They use twinaxial
cabling, and you'll need the pig tails, "bricks",... . It's not
standard
stuff, so it's unlikely you'd be able to make your own from what you can
find in your drawer. Also make sure to grab the terminal keyboards,
depending on how old the terminal is it might either use an RJ-45 plug, or
a DIN one. These keyboards use a modified version of the protocol PS/2
keyboards use, and some terminals can survive PS/2 keyboards with the right
plug soldered on them, but not all of them do. Your mileage will vary.
Also, if you connect the machine to the internet, make sure to change all
default passwords. There are quite a few.
Y.
2016-04-13 15:30 GMT+01:00 devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com>:
I called in again yesterday night, still not ready to
pick up though. The
guy assured me the drives were being wiped not removed, which is good.
How does the whold 70 day licence thing work. Is that a specific limitation
to os/400 or built into the hardware of the machine itself?
--
Sent using CompuServe 1.22
11:13 a.m.
On Apr 13, 2016, at 10:30 AM, devin davison
<lyokoboy0 at gmail.com> wrote:
I called in again yesterday night, still not ready to pick up though. The
guy assured me the drives were being wiped not removed, which is good.
You should check what "wiped" means. If they mean "degauss" as in
running the drives over a magnetic media bulk erase machine, that's equivalent to
destroying them because it wipes not just the data but also the formatting. If by
"wipe" they mean simply "write zeroes or equivalent over all sectors of the
drives" then things are ok.
paul
3:08 p.m.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote:
That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a "small"
9406-270
in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York. I'm in
Central Texas. It was listed with a flat $50 shipping fee. From the photos
and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be shipped by UPS
or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price which
they accepted, so I basically got free shipping. It was shipped by UPS
- UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright could get down my driveway so I
had to pick it up at their terminal. Fortunately it was shipped on a tiny
pallet that just fit in the back of my mini-van. It looks like an oversized
tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to use a
dolly to move it around.
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.Lassie.xyz
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T
<silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
In IBM-speak,
it's a "Midrange."
Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size".
4:45 p.m.
New subject: R: Getting an ibm as/400
You had it easy.
Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new development
as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one side)...
and the shipping original ibm box upped the weight to dunno... king kong.
It didn't fit in the elevator, and anyway exceeded the max weight.
The office was 2 floors up....
We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares
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Monceaux
Inviato: mercoled? 13 aprile 2016 21:09
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote:
That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a "small"
9406-270
in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York. I'm in
Central Texas. It was listed with a flat $50 shipping fee. From the photos
and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be shipped by UPS
or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price which
they accepted, so I basically got free shipping. It was shipped by UPS
- UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright could get down my driveway so I
had to pick it up at their terminal. Fortunately it was shipped on a tiny
pallet that just fit in the back of my mini-van. It looks like an oversized
tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to use a
dolly to move it around.
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.Lassie.xyz
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T
<silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
In IBM-speak,
it's a "Midrange."
Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size".
8:09 p.m.
Alright. Picked up the machine today. Much smaller than expected, but
everything needed seems to be included. I got a terminal as well as a box
of cables. I managed to boot the machine up to the login screen. However I
do not know the username or password. I was speaking with someone on the
phone that was quite knowlegable, they said that after 3 attempts to login
it becomes a potato. What do i do from here. I am going to try and contact
the original owners, however i believe they are unwilling to help. Im quite
amazed the main drive was not wiped. Anyhow, if i can not get the password
from the original owners, there does appear to be a
working install on the
drives, how would I go about resetting the password to gain
access to the
machine? The machine is a ibm as/400e 170.
pictures to follow once I find my camera.
--Devin
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
You had it easy.
Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new
development
as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one side)...
and the shipping original ibm box upped the weight to dunno... king kong.
It didn't fit in the elevator, and anyway exceeded the max weight.
The office was 2 floors up....
We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares
-----Messaggio originale-----
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Monceaux
Inviato: mercoled? 13 aprile 2016 21:09
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote:
That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a "small"
9406-270
in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York. I'm in
Central Texas. It was listed with a flat $50 shipping fee. From the
photos
and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be shipped by
UPS
or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price which
they accepted, so I basically got free shipping. It was shipped by UPS
- UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright could get down my driveway so I
had to pick it up at their terminal. Fortunately it was shipped on a tiny
pallet that just fit in the back of my mini-van. It looks like an
oversized
tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to use a
dolly to move it around.
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.Lassie.xyz
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T
<silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
In
IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange."
Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size". 
8:40 p.m.
if u havent got it yet here is ibms spec page on it
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Alright. Picked up the machine today. Much smaller
than expected, but
everything needed seems to be included. I got a terminal as well as a box
of cables. I managed to boot the machine up to the login screen. However I
do not know the username or password. I was speaking with someone on the
phone that was quite knowlegable, they said that after 3 attempts to login
it becomes a potato. What do i do from here. I am going to try and contact
the original owners, however i believe they are unwilling to help. Im quite
amazed the main drive was not wiped. Anyhow, if i can not get the password
from the original owners, there does appear to be a working install on the
drives, how would I go about resetting the password to gain access to the
machine? The machine is a ibm as/400e 170.
pictures to follow once I find my camera.
--Devin
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it>
wrote:
--
Chris Halarewich
You had it easy.
Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new
development
as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one side)...
and the shipping original ibm box upped the weight to dunno... king kong.
It didn't fit in the elevator, and anyway exceeded the max weight.
The office was 2 floors up....
We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Kevin
Monceaux
Inviato: mercoled? 13 aprile 2016 21:09
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote:
That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a "small"
9406-270
in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York. I'm
in
Central Texas. It was listed with a flat $50 shipping fee. From the
photos
and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be shipped by
UPS
or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price which
they accepted, so I basically got free shipping. It was shipped by UPS
- UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright could get down my driveway so
I
had to pick it up at their terminal. Fortunately it was shipped on a
tiny
pallet that just fit in the back of my mini-van. It looks like an
oversized
tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to use
a
dolly to move it around.
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.Lassie.xyz
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T
<silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
In
IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange."
Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size". 
11:43 p.m.
Nice! I have a 170 (not up and running, no OS). Which variant do you have. Is it
about the size of a PC tower or or two PC towers next to each other?
/P
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:09:02PM -0400, devin davison wrote:
Alright. Picked up the machine today. Much smaller
than expected, but
everything needed seems to be included. I got a terminal as well as a box
of cables. I managed to boot the machine up to the login screen. However I
do not know the username or password. I was speaking with someone on the
phone that was quite knowlegable, they said that after 3 attempts to login
it becomes a potato. What do i do from here. I am going to try and contact
the original owners, however i believe they are unwilling to help. Im quite
amazed the main drive was not wiped. Anyhow, if i can not get the password
from the original owners, there does appear to be a working install on the
drives, how would I go about resetting the password to gain access to the
machine? The machine is a ibm as/400e 170.
pictures to follow once I find my camera.
--Devin
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
> You had it easy.
>
> Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new
> development
> as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one side)...
> and the shipping original ibm box upped the weight to dunno... king kong.
> It didn't fit in the elevator, and anyway exceeded the max weight.
>
> The office was 2 floors up....
>
> We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Kevin
> Monceaux
> Inviato: mercoled? 13 aprile 2016 21:09
> A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > > In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange."
> >
> > Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size".
>
> That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a "small"
> 9406-270
> in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York. I'm in
> Central Texas. It was listed with a flat $50 shipping fee. From the
> photos
> and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be shipped by
> UPS
> or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price which
> they accepted, so I basically got free shipping. It was shipped by UPS
> - UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright could get down my driveway so I
> had to pick it up at their terminal. Fortunately it was shipped on a tiny
> pallet that just fit in the back of my mini-van. It looks like an
> oversized
> tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to use a
> dolly to move it around.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Kevin
> http://www.RawFedDogs.net
> http://www.Lassie.xyz
> http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
> Bruceville, TX
>
> What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
> Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
>
>
11:57 p.m.
The size of two pc towers. I am trying to figure out how to log in. I tried
the account qsecofr with pass qsecofr with no luck. I might actually have a
licenced os on this thing, it is very different from anything i have worked
with before. Not sure really where to go from here.
The drives are scsi, are they in a standard filesystem format i could read
in a seperate machine?
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se> wrote:
Nice! I have a 170 (not up and running, no OS). Which
variant do you have.
Is it
about the size of a PC tower or or two PC towers next to each other?
/P
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:09:02PM -0400, devin davison wrote:
Alright. Picked up the machine today. Much
smaller than expected, but
everything needed seems to be included. I got a terminal as well as a box
of cables. I managed to boot the machine up to the login screen. However
I
do not know the username or password. I was
speaking with someone on the
phone that was quite knowlegable, they said that after 3 attempts to
login
it becomes a potato. What do i do from here. I am
going to try and
contact
the original owners, however i believe they are
unwilling to help. Im
quite
amazed the main drive was not wiped. Anyhow, if i
can not get the
password
from the original owners, there does appear to be
a working install on
the
drives, how would I go about resetting the
password to gain access to the
machine? The machine is a ibm as/400e 170.
pictures to follow once I find my camera.
--Devin
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it
<javascript:;>> wrote:
> You had it easy.
>
> Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new
> development
> as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one
side)...
> and the shipping original ibm box upped the
weight to dunno... king
kong.
> It didn't fit in the elevator, and
anyway exceeded the max weight.
>
> The office was 2 floors up....
>
> We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <javascript:;>] Per
conto di Kevin
> Monceaux
> Inviato: mercoled? 13 aprile 2016 21:09
> A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com
<javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > > In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange."
> >
> > Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size".
>
> That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a "small"
> 9406-270
> in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York.
I'm
in
> Central Texas. It was listed with a flat
$50 shipping fee. From the
> photos
> and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be shipped
by
> UPS
> or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price
which
> they accepted, so I basically got free
shipping. It was shipped by UPS
> - UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright could get down my driveway
so I
> had to pick it up at their terminal.
Fortunately it was shipped on a
tiny
> pallet that just fit in the back of my
mini-van. It looks like an
> oversized
> tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to
use a
> dolly to move it around.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Kevin
> http://www.RawFedDogs.net
> http://www.Lassie.xyz
> http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
> Bruceville, TX
>
> What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
> Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
>
>
14 Apr
14 Apr
12:09 a.m.
Couple of pictures.
http://s20.postimg.org/zf5twva0d/20160413_210749.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/dephg8rcd/20160413_210826.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/61eov0wod/20160413_210836.jpg
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016, devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lyokoboy0 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
The size of two pc towers. I am trying to figure out
how to log in. I
tried the account qsecofr with pass qsecofr with no luck. I might actually
have a licenced os on this thing, it is very different from anything i have
worked with before. Not sure really where to go from here.
The drives are scsi, are they in a standard filesystem format i could read
in a seperate machine?
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se> wrote:
Nice! I have a 170 (not up and running, no OS).
Which variant do you
have. Is it
about the size of a PC tower or or two PC towers next to each other?
/P
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:09:02PM -0400, devin davison wrote:
Alright. Picked up the machine today. Much
smaller than expected, but
everything needed seems to be included. I got a terminal as well as a
box
of cables. I managed to boot the machine up to
the login screen.
However I
do not know the username or password. I was
speaking with someone on the
phone that was quite knowlegable, they said that after 3 attempts to
login
it becomes a potato. What do i do from here. I am
going to try and
contact
the original owners, however i believe they are
unwilling to help. Im
quite
amazed the main drive was not wiped. Anyhow, if i
can not get the
password
from the original owners, there does appear to be
a working install on
the
drives, how would I go about resetting the
password to gain access to
the
machine? The machine is a ibm as/400e 170.
pictures to follow once I find my camera.
--Devin
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it>
wrote:
> You had it easy.
>
> Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new
> development
> as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one
side)...
> and the shipping original ibm box upped the
weight to dunno... king
kong.
> It didn't fit in the elevator, and
anyway exceeded the max weight.
>
> The office was 2 floors up....
>
> We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Kevin
> Monceaux
> Inviato: mercoled? 13 aprile 2016 21:09
> A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > > In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange."
> >
> > Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size".
>
> That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a "small"
> 9406-270
> in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York.
I'm
in
> Central Texas. It was listed with a flat
$50 shipping fee. From the
> photos
> and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be shipped
by
> UPS
> or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price
which
> they accepted, so I basically got free
shipping. It was shipped by
UPS
> - UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright
could get down my
driveway so I
> had to pick it up at their terminal.
Fortunately it was shipped on a
tiny
> pallet that just fit in the back of my
mini-van. It looks like an
> oversized
> tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to
use a
> dolly to move it around.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Kevin
> http://www.RawFedDogs.net
> http://www.Lassie.xyz
> http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
> Bruceville, TX
>
> What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
> Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
>
>
2:06 a.m.
Just the model I have :) I'm a total beginner so I cant advice you.
Normally I would say "yank the drive and image them with dd on a unix
box". But I'm not sure what that yields, given that the block size is
nonstandard (520B?). Perhap you get a copy you can't easily write back
to another drive. At worst you get a broken copy.
Either way. I have the same terminal but I lack the cabling. Could you
take a picture of all the cables in the order they are connected?
I think I know what I need, but it would be nice to get a verification.
Thank you,
Pontus.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:09:11AM -0400, devin davison wrote:
Couple of pictures.
http://s20.postimg.org/zf5twva0d/20160413_210749.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/dephg8rcd/20160413_210826.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/61eov0wod/20160413_210836.jpg
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016, devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lyokoboy0 at gmail.com');>>
wrote:
> The size of two pc towers. I am trying to figure out how to log in. I
> tried the account qsecofr with pass qsecofr with no luck. I might actually
> have a licenced os on this thing, it is very different from anything i have
> worked with before. Not sure really where to go from here.
>
> The drives are scsi, are they in a standard filesystem format i could read
> in a seperate machine?
>
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2016, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se> wrote:
>
>> Nice! I have a 170 (not up and running, no OS). Which variant do you
>> have. Is it
>> about the size of a PC tower or or two PC towers next to each other?
>>
>> /P
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:09:02PM -0400, devin davison wrote:
>> > Alright. Picked up the machine today. Much smaller than expected, but
>> > everything needed seems to be included. I got a terminal as well as a
>> box
>> > of cables. I managed to boot the machine up to the login screen.
>> However I
>> > do not know the username or password. I was speaking with someone on the
>> > phone that was quite knowlegable, they said that after 3 attempts to
>> login
>> > it becomes a potato. What do i do from here. I am going to try and
>> contact
>> > the original owners, however i believe they are unwilling to help. Im
>> quite
>> > amazed the main drive was not wiped. Anyhow, if i can not get the
>> password
>> > from the original owners, there does appear to be a working install on
>> the
>> > drives, how would I go about resetting the password to gain access to
>> the
>> > machine? The machine is a ibm as/400e 170.
>> >
>> > pictures to follow once I find my camera.
>> >
>> > --Devin
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at
tin.it>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > You had it easy.
>> > >
>> > > Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new
>> > > development
>> > > as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one
>> side)...
>> > > and the shipping original ibm box upped the weight to dunno... king
>> kong.
>> > > It didn't fit in the elevator, and anyway exceeded the max
weight.
>> > >
>> > > The office was 2 floors up....
>> > >
>> > > We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares
>> > >
>> > > -----Messaggio originale-----
>> > > Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di
Kevin
>> > > Monceaux
>> > > Inviato: mercoled? 13 aprile 2016 21:09
>> > > A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>> > > Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T <silent700 at
gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > > In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange."
>> > > >
>> > > > Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its
size".
>> > >
>> > > That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a
"small"
>> > > 9406-270
>> > > in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York.
>> I'm in
>> > > Central Texas. It was listed with a flat $50 shipping fee. From the
>> > > photos
>> > > and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be shipped
>> by
>> > > UPS
>> > > or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price
>> which
>> > > they accepted, so I basically got free shipping. It was shipped by
>> UPS
>> > > - UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright could get down my
>> driveway so I
>> > > had to pick it up at their terminal. Fortunately it was shipped on a
>> tiny
>> > > pallet that just fit in the back of my mini-van. It looks like an
>> > > oversized
>> > > tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to
>> use a
>> > > dolly to move it around.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Kevin
>> > > http://www.RawFedDogs.net
>> > > http://www.Lassie.xyz
>> > > http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
>> > > Bruceville, TX
>> > >
>> > > What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
>> > > Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>
15 Apr
15 Apr
5:43 a.m.
Beautiful! Congratulations on the system
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:09 PM, devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com> wrote:
Couple of pictures.
http://s20.postimg.org/zf5twva0d/20160413_210749.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/dephg8rcd/20160413_210826.jpg
http://s20.postimg.org/61eov0wod/20160413_210836.jpg
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016, devin davison <lyokoboy0 at gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lyokoboy0 at gmail.com');>>
wrote:
The size of two pc towers. I am trying to figure
out how to log in. I
tried the account qsecofr with pass qsecofr with no luck. I might
actually
have a licenced os on this thing, it is very
different from anything i
have
worked with before. Not sure really where to go
from here.
The drives are scsi, are they in a standard filesystem format i could
read
in a seperate machine?
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se>
wrote:
> Nice! I have a 170 (not up and running, no OS). Which variant do you
> have. Is it
> about the size of a PC tower or or two PC towers next to each other?
>
> /P
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:09:02PM -0400, devin davison wrote:
> > Alright. Picked up the machine today. Much smaller than expected, but
> > everything needed seems to be included. I got a terminal as well as a
> box
> > of cables. I managed to boot the machine up to the login screen.
> However I
> > do not know the username or password. I was speaking with someone on
the
> > phone that was quite knowlegable, they
said that after 3 attempts to
> login
> > it becomes a potato. What do i do from here. I am going to try and
> contact
> > the original owners, however i believe they are unwilling to help. Im
> quite
> > amazed the main drive was not wiped. Anyhow, if i can not get the
> password
> > from the original owners, there does appear to be a working install on
> the
> > drives, how would I go about resetting the password to gain access to
> the
> > machine? The machine is a ibm as/400e 170.
> >
> > pictures to follow once I find my camera.
> >
> > --Devin
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it>
> wrote:
> >
> > > You had it easy.
> > >
> > > Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new
> > > development
> > > as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one
> side)...
> > > and the shipping original ibm box upped the weight to dunno... king
> kong.
> > > It didn't fit in the elevator, and anyway exceeded the max weight.
> > >
> > > The office was 2 floors up....
> > >
> > > We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares
> > >
> > > -----Messaggio originale-----
> > > Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di
Kevin
> > > Monceaux
> > > Inviato: mercoled? 13 aprile 2016 21:09
> > > A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> > > Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T <silent700 at
gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange."
> > > >
> > > > Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size".
> > >
> > > That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a
"small"
> > > 9406-270
> > > in my living room. I found it listed on eBay. It was in New York.
> I'm in
> > > Central Texas. It was listed with a flat $50 shipping fee. From
the
> > > photos
> > > and shipping fee I was expecting something small enough to be
shipped
> by
> > > UPS
> > > or FedEx. I made the seller an offer $50 less than the list price
> which
> > > they accepted, so I basically got free shipping. It was shipped by
> UPS
> > > - UPS Freight. There was no way UPS Fright could get down my
> driveway so I
> > > had to pick it up at their terminal. Fortunately it was shipped on
a
tiny
> pallet that just fit in the back of my
mini-van. It looks like an
> oversized
> tower PC, but is definitely unusually heavy for its size. I have to
use a
> dolly to move it around.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Kevin
> http://www.RawFedDogs.net
> http://www.Lassie.xyz
> http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
> Bruceville, TX
>
> What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
> Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
>
>
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