6 Feb
2002
6 Feb
'02
2:37 a.m.
I like the Commodore and Apple 80's home computers and have multiples of most
models therein along with software and whatever docs I can find. My real
love at this point is older unix workstations - Sparcstations, Decstations,
HP 9000 series workstations and the like. Although I might not have *quite*
as many as most people on the list, I live in a 2 bdrm apt - and it's
getting crowded :-)
-Linc.
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
6 Feb
6 Feb
2:04 a.m.
I like the Commodore and Apple 80's home computers
and have
multiples of most models therein along with software and whatever
docs I can find. My real love at this point is older unix
workstations - Sparcstations, Decstations, HP 9000 series
workstations and the like. Although I might not have *quite* as
many as most people on the list, I live in a 2 bdrm apt - and it's
getting crowded :-)
I started out picking up most anything I came upon that I
thought was interesting, including video game consoles. As a result
my 2 bedroom apartment has a considerable amount of equipment in it
considering it's space. What I really need to do is get a couple of
sets of better shelves to replace some of the shelves I already have
in place. Then I could organize it better. I've been wanting to
prune my collection a little as I've found I'm much more interested
in some of the machines than in others, especially the NeXT's,
Amiga's and my SWTPC S/09.
Jeff
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2:59 a.m.
I suppose I should have mentioned my own interest in word processors,
which has become a work interst also.
And for something completely different, does anyone have any information
on ICL equipment sold over here? We have a damged terminal, marked, I
think, System 25, with a keyboard bearing the legend "made by ICL in usa".
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
5 Feb
5 Feb
8:56 p.m.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Merle K. Peirce wrote:
And for something completely different, does anyone
have any information
on ICL equipment sold over here? We have a damged terminal, marked, I
think, System 25, with a keyboard bearing the legend "made by ICL in
usa".
If I'm recalling correctly, I have an ICL computer that is brown and tan
in color. And I have these RAIR Black Box computers that somehow have a
connection to ICL (this is garnered from previous list discussions).
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6 Feb
3:15 a.m.
A couple weeks ago when I picked up various VAXen items
I was also given an ICL terminal. The person who
gave it to me said he could provide me with additional
documentation on it if I had any problems. One notable thing
on it is that the keys fall off the keyboard VERY easily!
If you have any specific questions, perhaps I can direct you to
that person.
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 08:59:03AM -0500, Merle K. Peirce wrote:
I suppose I should have mentioned my own interest in
word processors,
which has become a work interst also.
And for something completely different, does anyone have any information
on ICL equipment sold over here? We have a damged terminal, marked, I
think, System 25, with a keyboard bearing the legend "made by ICL in usa".
--
Bill
Amsterdam, NL
6:56 a.m.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Merle K. Peirce wrote:
I suppose I should have mentioned my own interest in
word processors,
which has become a work interst also.
And for something completely different, does anyone have any information
on ICL equipment sold over here? We have a damged terminal, marked, I
think, System 25, with a keyboard bearing the legend "made by ICL in usa".
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
If its old enough, ICL was once allied with Singer (who made computer
equipment at the Singer/Friden plant in Good Old San Leandro)
I once, many many moons ago, because I could not afford an ASR33, converted a
Singer model 70 workstation (giant 132 column typebar printer) to a async
serial terminal (by removing the mutidrop line card and replacing it with a
wirewrapped card with a UART and some FIFOs) The noise that printer made still
echos in my head..
Peter Wallace
5 Feb
5 Feb
11:48 p.m.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
If its old enough, ICL was once allied with Singer
(who made computer
equipment at the Singer/Friden plant in Good Old San Leandro)
Alas, all I have of a Singer computer is half an unpopulated circuit board
I found at a thrift (charity) store in the California central valley town
of Stockton.
I also have a couple Friden calculators, but I don't know where they would
have been manufactured. I have the EC1117 and the Friden 132. And probably
a couple others I can't recall right now.
I'm in the process (slowly but surely) of setting up a computer museum at
the ACCRC, and since it is in Oakland, will feature a primary exhibit of
computers produced locally (in the East Bay, as that area is called).
This would include Processor Technology (Berkeley and later Pleasanton),
Northstar (Berkeley), IMSAI and Singer/Friden (San Leandro), Osborne
(Hayward), Godbout/CompuPro (Oakland), and a couple I'm probably
forgetting.
Can anyone else from this area clue me in on others? I'm sure Peter can
name a few more.
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6 Feb
6 Feb
9:33 a.m.
New subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
I'm in the process (slowly but surely) of setting
up a computer museum at
the ACCRC, and since it is in Oakland, will feature a primary exhibit of
computers produced locally (in the East Bay, as that area is called).
This would include Processor Technology (Berkeley and later Pleasanton),
Northstar
formerly Kentucky Fried Computers
(Berkeley
and later Hayward?
), IMSAI and Singer/Friden (San Leandro), Osborne
(Hayward
Orignally Berkeley?
), Godbout/CompuPro (Oakland), and a couple I'm
probably
forgetting.
Thinker Toys, Later Morrow Designs (Berkeley)
Sybex books (Berkeley, later Alameda)
Osborne-McGraw-Hill books (Berkeley)
Hercules (Berkeley)
Golemics (Berkeley)
Dantz (Berkeley)
What is/was the name of Gilman Louie's computer game company in Alameda?
and:
XenoSoft (Berkeley) !
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
6:26 a.m.
New subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
Thinker Toys, Later Morrow Designs (Berkeley)
Oh yeah.
Sybex books (Berkeley, later Alameda)
Osborne-McGraw-Hill books (Berkeley)
Can't really exhibit a book. Do you think Adam Osborne would mind
standing in one place for 8 hours a day as a "living exhibit"? ;)
Hercules (Berkeley)
You mean the video card company?
Golemics (Berkeley)
Huh?
Dantz (Berkeley)
Who?
What is/was the name of Gilman Louie's computer
game company in Alameda?
Wasn't that Synergistic Software? I know I just saw this on a box of
software the other day and went "huh" (as in "wow cool").
XenoSoft (Berkeley) !
Of course! That's why I have the Xenosoft director's chair ;)
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3:39 p.m.
New subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
I have seen that.
Yes. Jenkins was the guy's
name.
Lee Felsenstein
Macintosh software. a backup program, SCSI stuff I think.
Spectrum Holobyte?
Sybex books
(Berkeley, later Alameda)
Osborne-McGraw-Hill books (Berkeley)
Can't really exhibit a book. Do you
think Adam Osborne would mind
standing in one place for 8 hours a day as a "living exhibit"? ;) Hercules
(Berkeley)
You mean the video card company? Golemics
(Berkeley)
Huh? Dantz
(Berkeley)
Who? What is/was
the name of Gilman Louie's computer game company in Alameda?
Wasn't that
Synergistic Software? I know I just saw this on a box of
software the other day and went "huh" (as in "wow cool").
9:38 a.m.
New subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
Lee Felsenstein
Ah yeah.
Macintosh
software. a backup program, SCSI stuff I think.
Geez. The Flying Toaster screen saver guys were more interesting than
that and I'm not considering exhibiting anything by them ;)
Spectrum Holobyte?
Oh yeah, that was it.
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Golemics (Berkeley)
Huh? Dantz (Berkeley)
Who? What is/was the name of Gilman Louie's computer
game company in Alameda?
Wasn't that Synergistic Software? I know I just saw
this on a box of
software the other day and went "huh" (as in "wow cool").
8:46 p.m.
New subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
Geez. The Flying Toaster screen saver guys were more
interesting than
that and I'm not considering exhibiting anything by them ;)
WHAT?!?
Opus and Bill shooting down flying toasters was a significant event in the
history of computer intellectual property law!
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
7 Feb
7 Feb
2:13 a.m.
New subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
> Geez. The Flying Toaster screen saver guys were
more interesting than
> that and I'm not considering exhibiting anything by them ;)
WHAT?!?
Opus and Bill shooting down flying toasters was a significant event in the
history of computer intellectual property law!
It has been the only screen saver I EVER did use.
And the only I EVER realy went out to search.
And of course the only I EVER payed Money.
Opus is #1
(And there are still at least 3 company wide used software packages
at SIEMENS with reference to him :)
Gruss
H.
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2:13 a.m.
New subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
> > > What is/was the name of Gilman
Louie's computer game company in Alameda?
> > Wasn't that Synergistic Software? I know I just saw this on a box of
> > software the other day and went "huh" (as in "wow cool").
> Spectrum Holobyte?
Oh yeah, that was it.
Kicks me ... somehow I always belived they where a Brit firm.
Gruss
H.
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6 Feb
6 Feb
12:44 p.m.
New subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
VMI -- Virtual Microsystem. Made embedded MSDOS machines for
Q bus, Unibus and Nova bus machines. Allowed you to run
MessyDos programs under assorted DEC operating systems as
well as AOS/VS. Downtown Berkeley, next to the BART station.
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Subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
I'm in the process (slowly but surely) of
setting up a computer museum at
the ACCRC, and since it is in Oakland, will feature a primary exhibit of
computers produced locally (in the East Bay, as that area is called).
This would include Processor Technology (Berkeley and later Pleasanton),
Northstar
formerly Kentucky Fried Computers
(Berkeley
and later Hayward?
), IMSAI and Singer/Friden (San Leandro), Osborne
(Hayward
Orignally Berkeley?
), Godbout/CompuPro (Oakland), and a couple
I'm probably
forgetting.
Thinker Toys, Later Morrow Designs (Berkeley)
Sybex books (Berkeley, later Alameda)
Osborne-McGraw-Hill books (Berkeley)
Hercules (Berkeley)
Golemics (Berkeley)
Dantz (Berkeley)
What is/was the name of Gilman Louie's computer game company in Alameda?
and:
XenoSoft (Berkeley) !
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
6:47 a.m.
New subject: East Bay companies (was: What's your specialty?
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Chris Kennedy wrote:
VMI -- Virtual Microsystem. Made embedded MSDOS
machines for
Q bus, Unibus and Nova bus machines. Allowed you to run
MessyDos programs under assorted DEC operating systems as
well as AOS/VS. Downtown Berkeley, next to the BART station.
Cool, but I have no examples in my archive :(
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9:48 a.m.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
How about Morrow designs, El Dorado systems (sp?), Diablo systems...
If its old enough, ICL was once allied with
Singer (who made computer
equipment at the Singer/Friden plant in Good Old San Leandro)
Alas, all I have of a Singer computer is half an unpopulated circuit board
I found at a thrift (charity) store in the California central valley town
of Stockton.
I also have a couple Friden calculators, but I don't know where they would
have been manufactured. I have the EC1117 and the Friden 132. And probably
a couple others I can't recall right now.
I'm in the process (slowly but surely) of setting up a computer museum at
the ACCRC, and since it is in Oakland, will feature a primary exhibit of
computers produced locally (in the East Bay, as that area is called).
This would include Processor Technology (Berkeley and later Pleasanton),
Northstar (Berkeley), IMSAI and Singer/Friden (San Leandro), Osborne
(Hayward), Godbout/CompuPro (Oakland), and a couple I'm probably
forgetting.
Can anyone else from this area clue me in on others? I'm sure Peter can
name a few more.
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Peter Wallace
6:28 a.m.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
How about Morrow designs, El Dorado systems (sp?),
Diablo systems...
Also forgot about Diablo. But who the heck was El Dorado and what did
they make?
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7 Feb
5:13 a.m.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
At least test instruments and calculators but my memory is pretty foggy
Also remembered Peritek (Oakland) They make frame bufffers for various busses
They are still in business (started in 1976)
How about Morrow designs, El Dorado systems
(sp?), Diablo systems...
Also forgot about Diablo. But who the heck was El Dorado and what did
they make?
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Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
6 Feb
6 Feb
10:26 a.m.
New subject: Word Processor - Was Re: What's your specialty?
Merle,
I'm trying to recall details from a couple of weeks ago....
Does a Panasonic WP-30 sound right? Separate CRT screen, built-in
printer (I think), I thought it was a terminal at first. Silver-gray
with black trim.
You want I should see if it's still there? IIRC they wanted $30 for
it, untested.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Merle K. Peirce wrote:
I suppose I should have mentioned my own interest in
word processors,
which has become a work interst also.
And for something completely different, does anyone have any information
on ICL equipment sold over here? We have a damged terminal, marked, I
think, System 25, with a keyboard bearing the legend "made by ICL in usa".
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
7 Feb
7 Feb
2:58 a.m.
New subject: Word Processor - Was Re: What's your specialty?
That sounds awfully familiar. I think we have one out of a school
system. It's basically an electronic typewriter with a video screen on a
swivel arm. Some had 3-1/2 inch drives installed, others did not.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Doc wrote:
Merle,
I'm trying to recall details from a couple of weeks ago....
Does a Panasonic WP-30 sound right? Separate CRT screen, built-in
printer (I think), I thought it was a terminal at first. Silver-gray
with black trim.
You want I should see if it's still there? IIRC they wanted $30 for
it, untested.
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Merle K. Peirce wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
I suppose I should have mentioned my own interest
in word processors,
which has become a work interst also.
And for something completely different, does anyone have any information
on ICL equipment sold over here? We have a damged terminal, marked, I
think, System 25, with a keyboard bearing the legend "made by ICL in usa".
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
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