19 May
2005
19 May
'05
8:49 p.m.
wasn't the guy's name Lou something?
Sonny Monosson
here's his obit
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/obituaries/articles/2003/10/07/adolf_monos…
Lot of what is rare stuff in that pic (like the RF08 on his left..)
19 May
19 May
8:53 p.m.
Lot of what is rare stuff in that pic (like the RF08
on his left..)
By the way, the original plac ethat picture was used was an old National
Geographic. I recall the same page has a picture of one of the piles as
ILLIAC 4 was being scrapped.
William Donzelli
aw288 at osfn.org
20 May
20 May
3:09 a.m.
William Donzelli wrote:
By the way, the original plac ethat picture was used
was an old National
Geographic. I recall the same page has a picture of one of the piles as
ILLIAC 4 was being scrapped.
(via David Forbes):
This photo is scanned in from the October 1982 issue
of National
Geographic magazine, which I just found at the thrift store. It has
an article about The Chip, and another about Silicon Valley. Humorous
reading.
Some more humour (in the ironic vein): there is an article in National Geographic of
November 1970 that has a picture of ILLIAC 4 (IV) being assembled ("Behold the
Computer Revolution", page 631).
"... when completed will perform a billion operations a second and may rival in
capacity all other computers combined ... The 25 million dollar machine...".
4:27 a.m.
I used to go there all the time. I bought two Mannesmann/Tally
printers, some weird little minicomputer (no brand, no docs, core,
18 bit, weird cards, don't ask I don't recall anything), Pertec
7-track tape drive I ran on the SWTPC, tons of weird boards; ogled
$2000 64K (K!) boards, glared at the snotty MIT kids with HP
calculators on their belts (I hope they are embarrassed now),
looked at japanese 360 clones ($500?), a 6-foot-high analog pen
plotter, a PDP-8/s and E (some really low serial number in the
window). Bought my Olivetti Te318 (asr33 workalike but beautiful
italian), I can't recall what else. Spent a lot of time and money
there. Wish I had saved that mini!
23 May
23 May
10:01 p.m.
On Thu, 19 May 2005, William Donzelli wrote:
Are you talking about the November 1970 issue of National Geopgraphic?
It's the only old NG that has a story on computers, "Behold the Computer
Revolution".
Took me several years to find but I eventually tracked down a copy (not
hard, considering there are tons of old NG issues out there).
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Lot of what is
rare stuff in that pic (like the RF08 on his left..)
By the way, the original plac ethat picture was used was an old National
Geographic. I recall the same page has a picture of one of the piles as
ILLIAC 4 was being scrapped. 
24 May
24 May
10:01 a.m.
>>>> "Vintage" == Vintage
Computer Festival <vcf at siconic.com> writes:
Vintage> On Thu, 19 May 2005, William Donzelli wrote:
> > Lot of what is rare stuff in that pic (like
the RF08 on his
> left..)
>
> By the way, the original plac ethat picture was used was an old
> National Geographic. I recall the same page has a picture of one
> of the piles as ILLIAC 4 was being scrapped.
Vintage> Are you talking about the November 1970 issue of National
Vintage> Geopgraphic?
Can't be -- Illiac 4 was either not yet in existence, or alive and
well -- certainly not scrapped. I remember it was a running system
while I was at the U of Illinois in the late 1970s -- occasionally
visiting the building where it was supposed to have been installed.
(It ended up on a military base instead, because DoD was paying for
the machine and decided they didn't like to put it on a campus full of
hippy protestors... but by then the building had already been
constructed.)
paul
10:29 a.m.
> Are you talking about the November 1970 issue of
National
> Geopgraphic?
Can't be -- Illiac 4 was either not yet in
existence, or alive
and well -- certainly not scrapped.
There are two articles in the mentioning
November 1970 "Behold the Computer Revolution"
October 1982 The Chip
The second one has the PDP8 dealer and the scrappiac.
John A.
4:02 p.m.
John Allain wrote:
Nov 70 issue has a picture of ILLIAC IV being assembled.
Oct 82 issue has a picture of ILLIAC IV being scrapped.
Coincidence, or intention on the part of the writers of the second article?
(... sent a message about this last week, perhaps it was lost, pardon if it's
repetitious)
> Are you talking about the November 1970 issue
of National
> Geopgraphic?
Can't be -- Illiac 4 was either not yet in
existence, or alive
and well -- certainly not scrapped.
There are two articles in the mentioning
November 1970 "Behold the Computer Revolution"
October 1982 The Chip
8:02 p.m.
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Brent Hilpert wrote:
Interesting observation, and a good question.
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There are two
articles in the mentioning
November 1970 "Behold the Computer Revolution"
October 1982 The Chip
Nov 70 issue has a picture of ILLIAC IV being assembled.
Oct 82 issue has a picture of ILLIAC IV being scrapped.
Coincidence, or intention on the part of the writers of the second article?
6:10 p.m.
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Paul Koning wrote:
Right. It ended up at Moffett Field in Mountain View, California, which
is how the Computer History Museum got it as part of its collection (and
it now sits on display in the Visible Storage area).
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>>>> "Vintage" == Vintage Computer Festival <vcf at
siconic.com> writes:
Vintage> On Thu, 19 May 2005, William Donzelli wrote:
> > Lot of what is rare stuff in that pic
(like the RF08 on his
> left..)
>
> By the way, the original plac ethat picture was used was an old
> National Geographic. I recall the same page has a picture of one
> of the piles as ILLIAC 4 was being scrapped.
Vintage> Are you talking about the November 1970 issue of National
Vintage> Geopgraphic?
Can't be -- Illiac 4 was either not yet in existence, or alive and
well -- certainly not scrapped. I remember it was a running system
while I was at the U of Illinois in the late 1970s -- occasionally
visiting the building where it was supposed to have been installed.
(It ended up on a military base instead, because DoD was paying for
the machine and decided they didn't like to put it on a campus full of
hippy protestors... but by then the building had already been
constructed.)
9:20 p.m.
Right. It ended up at Moffett Field in Mountain View,
California, which
is how the Computer History Museum got it as part of its collection (and
it now sits on display in the Visible Storage area).
Are you sure you have the whole thing (well, all that was built,
anyway)? ILLIAC 4 was big. Really damn big. And they only ended up
building a fraction of its goal.
William Donzelli
aw288 at osfn.org
9:40 p.m.
On Tue, 24 May 2005, William Donzelli wrote:
Not sure. Will have to ask someone who was around then or check off-site
storage.
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Right. It
ended up at Moffett Field in Mountain View, California, which
is how the Computer History Museum got it as part of its collection (and
it now sits on display in the Visible Storage area).
Are you sure you have the whole thing (well, all that was built,
anyway)? ILLIAC 4 was big. Really damn big. And they only ended up
building a fraction of its goal. 
25 May
25 May
9:28 a.m.
The only portion of Illiac-IV is the PE, CE, and swapping drive that are on
display at the Museum. See
http://www.computerhistory.org/VisibleStorage/images/102636984_lg.jpg for a
picture of the system at NASA-Ames.
Lee Courtney
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On Tue, 24 May 2005, William Donzelli wrote:
Not sure. Will have to ask someone who was around then or check off-site
storage.
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> Right. It ended up at Moffett Field in
Mountain View,
California, which
> is how the Computer History Museum got it as
part of its
collection (and
it now
sits on display in the Visible Storage area).
Are you sure you have the whole thing (well, all that was built,
anyway)? ILLIAC 4 was big. Really damn big. And they only ended up
building a fraction of its goal.
11:57 a.m.
>>>> "William" == William
Donzelli <aw288 at osfn.org> writes:
> Right. It ended up at Moffett Field in Mountain
View, California,
> which is how the Computer History Museum got it as part of its
> collection (and it now sits on display in the Visible Storage
> area).
William> Are you sure you have the whole thing (well, all that was
William> built, anyway)? ILLIAC 4 was big. Really damn big. And they
William> only ended up building a fraction of its goal.
A quarter, actually -- it was supposed to be a 256 processor system
but only the 64 CPU major block was built.
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