20 Apr
2013
20 Apr
'13
1:15 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 03:46:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mouse <mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG>
["MikeS" <dm561 at torfree.net>]
> I happen to think that I not only have a legal
right to choose what to do
> with what most people would consider worthless junk, but that it's really
> none of your business.
Indeed. Until and unless you make it our business,
such as by posting on
the list about it.
Like I said, I've learned my lesson; since offering something for sale here
before it is scrapped is not appreciated and instead earns the censure of
folks like you who on principle won't buy it from me anyway, I'll avoid
offending you and simply offer it elsewhere and/or scrap it *without*
offering it first.
Unless you are also Steven Landon (and maybe even then
- see below), or
unless you've pulled such a stunt in the past and I've lost track of it, I
don't see why _you_ are getting bent out of shape over this.
I have no love or respect for Landon whatsoever but I can see myself saying
exactly the same thing, i.e. "I've got to get rid of some stuff and if I
can't sell it by YY/MM/DD then I'm going to give it to Goodwill" (where you
could presumably pick it up anyway if you're in a position to pick up in the
first place); thus, the critical replies and comments could just as well be
directed at me, which is why I stuck my nose in.
If I give it to Goodwill or scrap it I never have to think about it again;
no waiting for folks to show up who never do, no endless email exchanges, no
listening to their complaints, no seeing it on eBay for $100 the next day,
etc. etc. and I think I'm entitled to choose whether to put up with those
hassles without any compensation. If you think that making my choice clear
is emotional blackmail, then so be it.
...the response from someone who actually cares about
the hobby instead of
about yanking others' emotional chains would have been more along the
lines of "oh $#!+, is that what they do? Then...", or perhaps "actually,
I asked them and the real policy here is...".
I guess I accepted a long time ago that millions of tons of useful and
valuable stuff gets buried, crushed or melted down every day and I don't get
as emotional about it as you think I should; if I think it should be saved
and am in a position to do so, I will; what other people choose to do is up
to them.
Sorry if I'm not caring enough about the fate of old computers, or sensitive
and considerate enough of your feelings...
As I just replied to someone off-list, I find it sad and a little depressing
to see the animosity, *judgements* and personal attacks so prevalent on this
list, which is after all intended to bring fellow members of a community
together to share knowledge, experience etc. and in general help each
other...
20 Apr
20 Apr
9:14 p.m.
The point of whoever posted the complaint originally was more of the lines of "300$
or it goes to goodwill". Where one would think perhaps if its trash to the owner the
price would become more reasonsable or I would personally suggest pricing the unit out if
its in danger of scrap. Obviously some of the cards are desirable and cheaper to offload
than the whole system which most of us have.
-----Original Message-----
From: "MikeS" <dm561 at torfree.net>
Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.orgDate: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 12:15:03
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Last chance on Local Pickup machines in Flushing MI
----- Original Message -----
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 03:46:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mouse <mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG>
["MikeS" <dm561 at torfree.net>]
> I happen to think that I not only have a legal
right to choose what to do
> with what most people would consider worthless junk, but that it's really
> none of your business.
Indeed. Until and unless you make it our business,
such as by posting on
the list about it.
Like I said, I've learned my lesson; since offering something for sale here
before it is scrapped is not appreciated and instead earns the censure of
folks like you who on principle won't buy it from me anyway, I'll avoid
offending you and simply offer it elsewhere and/or scrap it *without*
offering it first.
Unless you are also Steven Landon (and maybe even then
- see below), or
unless you've pulled such a stunt in the past and I've lost track of it, I
don't see why _you_ are getting bent out of shape over this.
I have no love or respect for Landon whatsoever but I can see myself saying
exactly the same thing, i.e. "I've got to get rid of some stuff and if I
can't sell it by YY/MM/DD then I'm going to give it to Goodwill" (where you
could presumably pick it up anyway if you're in a position to pick up in the
first place); thus, the critical replies and comments could just as well be
directed at me, which is why I stuck my nose in.
If I give it to Goodwill or scrap it I never have to think about it again;
no waiting for folks to show up who never do, no endless email exchanges, no
listening to their complaints, no seeing it on eBay for $100 the next day,
etc. etc. and I think I'm entitled to choose whether to put up with those
hassles without any compensation. If you think that making my choice clear
is emotional blackmail, then so be it.
...the response from someone who actually cares about
the hobby instead of
about yanking others' emotional chains would have been more along the
lines of "oh $#!+, is that what they do? Then...", or perhaps "actually,
I asked them and the real policy here is...".
I guess I accepted a long time ago that millions of tons of useful and
valuable stuff gets buried, crushed or melted down every day and I don't get
as emotional about it as you think I should; if I think it should be saved
and am in a position to do so, I will; what other people choose to do is up
to them.
Sorry if I'm not caring enough about the fate of old computers, or sensitive
and considerate enough of your feelings...
As I just replied to someone off-list, I find it sad and a little depressing
to see the animosity, *judgements* and personal attacks so prevalent on this
list, which is after all intended to bring fellow members of a community
together to share knowledge, experience etc. and in general help each
other...
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