On 12 Oct 2002 at 15:35, stewart allen wrote: When I first started collecting old systems back in the mid 90s, I had the same quandry. The easiest way to do it, I learned, was a direct modem to modem connection between the computers (note, you will need to get a terminal emulator with at least XModem or Kermit for the classic system). Going from memory here... 1: Connect the two modems with a standard phone cord via the LINE jacks (may also me labelled WALL 2: Fire up the terminal programs on both computers. 3: On both systems, enter the command ATX3. This lets you operate without needing a dialtone. 4: On the PC, enter the command ATA. The PC should start to scream as she waits for an incoming signal. 5: On the other system, enter the command ATDT. The two should now start negotiating a connection. And if all goes well, you should see the message CONNECT xxxxx (where xxxxx is the connection speed). 6: You may need to experiment with various terminal settings, such as Local Echo, Full or Half Duplex, etc. Been a while since I last did this. 7: You should now be able to do transfers with whatever protocols both systems have. Once you can get this set up, there are a couple utilities I highly recommend you search for. One is called D2D or D3D or something like that. This is for the Amiga, and actually lets the Amiga read and write MS-DOS disks. Once you have this little utility, you will no longer need to do the modem to modem connection to transfer stuff a 1571 or 1581 drive, there is a freeware utility called Little Red Reader, which allows you to read and write MS-DOS disks on your Commodore drive. I also seem to recall a similar very simple utility that works with the 1541, but I can't remember at this time what it was called. Oh, and if you have any CP/M based systems, 22Disk is a must-have. That will allow you to read and write a wide array of CP/M formats It doesn't handle Apple II CP/M though, since Apple's developers, in their infinite lack of wisdom, decided to use GCR encoding instead of MFM. On that track, I've been wondering if there might be a way to read and write Apple II disks on a 1571 or 1581, as those drives use both types of encoding, from what I seem to recall... Anyway, hope this info is of some use to you. -- Scarletdown