He had a son named "Chip" .... Regards, Steven C.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon JC Pearce" <gordon at gjcp.net> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: Re: possible dec equipment I'm going to put myself in for the "nominative determinism" (coined by "New Scientist" prize... I'm a comms and navigation engineer in aviation Jim BEACON.

OK, OK Lets beat this dead horse....some more There once was a poster named Rowe, who set of an excitable row, A rare pdp was no joke, but not even this hoax could disuade those, though the find, was faux. yeah..you could do better.. :-) Cheers Tom Jim Beacon wrote:

Tony wrote... No kidding... one of my frat brothers was named Richard Kuntz. On a wildly different off-topic note... This was the first day of really nice weather this season, so I skipped out to the local airport (I haven't flown in 10 years). Some guy there had just bought a marine skyraider the day before and was trying it out on the ramp. Most impressive to see the hydraulic wings unfolding. So of course I got bit by the flying bug again, I'll have to look up an instructor and get recertified. But to tie it in to on-topic (it's a reach), I came home and started pondering with the wife exactly what plane I could get that is economical to fly but has a payload weight of about 750 pounds with a 6 foot by 21 inch cargo spot....... ;) Jay West

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Jay West wrote: A turbo Aztec, of course.... 3300 dry ramp weight, 5K gross max takeoff, 175mph, 1400fpm climb, 24K cieling, 800 - 900 mile range. BIG baggage area, plus if you rip out those useless back seats - more room for Flying Computer Rescue... ;} Of course if the Wife and Friends wanna go fer a hunner-doller hamburger, you'll have to put them back in the airplane, so keep them in the hangar just to be Safe. Cheers John PPMEL/IFR

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Jay West wrote: Well, you didn't say "6' rack"... so what you want is a good used Cessna Caravan with the belly door mod.... and that gives the added bonus of being able to rescue computers in the bush, or on the tundra... Just how are your short-field skills??? Cheers John

What planes have 220 three phase?

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lawson" <jpl15 at panix.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Massively Off-topic: Computer rescue planes

Jay West wrote: Well not me ... I figured the 6' x ... was storage space for the plane, thus the slash dot link. Check the link since that is neat plane even if you can haul puter's ... 750 lb's still seems low for the BIG puter stuff. Ben alias woodelf

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Ethan Dicks wrote: ObClassiccmp: While getting my licence, I and my instructor flew a (then brand-new) Cessna 182RG out to a regoinal airport in Southern California where I met a previous Listmember and we transferred the entire RT11 set of docs in several heavy boxes from the trunk of his car to the back of the airplane, then had lunch and flew back to Santa Monica, well over a hundred pounds heavier... Instructor just shook his head... flying Geeks.... Cheers John

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Jerome H. Fine wrote: You bored, Jerry? There was *much* other doc, peripherals sets, programming manuals, the usual Stuff that accumulates over time on the shelves of someone heavily involved with the day-to-day running of a PDP11 system. We weighed it on a scale, of course - it was in excess of 100 pounds all-up - I'd have to dig out the logbook for that year where I recorded the actual wieght - because that, like picking up a passenger, has a bearing on the flight charcteristics (weight and balance calcs) and thus one's safety. But hey, thanks for calling me out on this one.... Cheers John

At 4:16 PM -0400 4/4/05, Jerome H. Fine wrote: It weighs to much. That's really all you need to know :^) Well how is this, my RT-11 doc set (V5.4 I believe) takes almost one shelf, and that's with three ring binders. For OpenVMS V6.0 through V7.3 it takes almost two shelves for the *complete* doc set (a base doc set takes about half a shelf). OTOH, the whole OpenVMS Doc Set is available on a CD, and that's the format I like these days. My question is how much dead space does a Grey Wall (V5) really take up, and how much of the Grey Walls that most people have seen are the OpenVMS Doc set, and how much is layered products? BTW, for the Grey Wall, the base doc set is 6 paperbacks that take up very little space, and I still keep them around as they're a lot of good info in a small amount of space. I don't even think I want to know how much space I have being taken up by VAX/VMS V4 through OpenVMS V7.3 doc's! I am convinced that more than half of the space that my DEC collection takes up is documentation. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

From: "Jay West" <jwest at classiccmp.org> DC3 springs to mind, and I happen to know that the FAA still has a couple of redundant ones (nicely kitted out with 19" racking in the back......) If your looking for a single, try something from De Havilland Canada they made several interesting little aircraft for bush flying. Jim.

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: I once knew a prostitute named Priscilla Hoare. April Fools! Oops, two days late. Sorry :) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]