6 May
2007
6 May
'07
8:58 p.m.
All,
About a month ago I picked a nice stash from a freecycler wishing to
clean out. The summary list: Partial Apple II, II+, IIe and lots of h/w
accessories and software. The fuller list is at the end of this entry.
I'm not a big collector (I have a Obtronix Apple Replica and Kim-1
(another 6502 SBC)). But I thought I'd piece together a nice
representative Apple 2 and sell off the rest. I haven't tested anything
yet.
Question 1: Which to keep: II, II+, or IIe? I need to review Apple
system hardware history, but I'd figure the IIe has the most
capability, but the II is more significant.
Question 2: Which accessories are significant to keep (you know, but
hate to say it: "VERY R at RE!!!")? Some
things may be rare, but I doubt I'd use them. For example, the Switch-A-Slot
(see http://tinyurl.com/2m8b3e )
Thanks for any helpful suggestions!
Scott
Fuller lengthier list (my notes are shoddy in places)
***Systems***
Apple II MN/SN: A2A0016/A2S1-61847
* Manufacture Date (corner of mobo): 7928
* Missing Power supply
* Missing Cover (aaargh!!)
Apple II+ MN/SN: A2S1016/A2S2-102594
* Ram Card (CSE/KS??)
* Disk ][ Interface card
* Apple IIe MN/SN: A2S2064/A2S2-D45-055F
* Disk ][ Interface card
* Mouse interface
* Mockingboard
* Parallel Card - Precision S/W
* RAM Works II
***Other Hardware***
Apple Disk ][ A2M0003 (Qty 3 older style, Qty 1 newer)
Transware Accelerator
Joystick
Koala Pad
Numeric Keypad IIe A2M2003
Synch Printer Interface card
IRQ Manager - Berkeley Softworks
Switch-A-Slot - South Calif. Research Group
IEEE-488 Card
MPC Peripherals AP-S10
SUP'RMOD VHF Converter
Interactive Structres A/D
Modem - Applied Engineering Datalink
Floppy Drive Controller for IIe 3.5" Drive
Disk ][ Interface Card
CMS SCSI II
Apple Super Serial Card II
Apple IIe 80 Col/64K Memory Expansion
Sequential Systems Ram80
Silentype Printer A2M0032
Hardrive in enclosure (I didn't open to get model, size)
Apple Monitor (I didn't note the model)
Commodore Monitor (I didn't note the model)
***Software***
Copy II Plus
DOS 3.3 Basics, System Manual
MousePaint
ProDOS
Start Smith's Adventure Construction Set
Apple Fortran
Apple Pascal
GEOS - includes GEOFile, GEOCalc,...
Merlin Pro Macro Assembler IIe, IIc
No Slot Clock
more (if I remember correctly)
***Software on Cassette***
Mastermind
Apple Lis'ner, Apple talker
RamTest
Forte' Music
Dynacomp - Poker Party, Teacher's Pet, Games Pack
Renumber/Append, Alignment Test Tone
MicroUsers Software Exchange (Baltimore) - UDraw, Music Box
Apple - Phone List, Brian's Theme
Apple - Hopalong Cassidy, Lemonade
Apple - Penny Arcade, Finance 1
Speakeasy Bulls & Bears
Avalon MicroComp Game - Computer Baseball Strategy
***Books***
A Guide to Programming in AppleSoft (2nd Ed)
Apple II Basic Manual, Ref Manual
DOS Manual (DOS3.3, I think)
SuperSerial Card
AppleSoft Basic Programming Reference Manual
Apple Machine Language (Don and Kurt Inman)
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6 May
6 May
11:30 p.m.
On 5/6/07, Scott Austin <us21090 at yahoo.com> wrote:
All,
About a month ago I picked a nice stash from a freecycler wishing to
clean out. The summary list: Partial Apple II, II+, IIe and lots of h/w
accessories and software. The fuller list is at the end of this entry.
Nice.
Question 1: Which to keep: II, II+, or IIe? I need to
review Apple
system hardware history, but I'd figure the IIe has the most
capability, but the II is more significant.
That's pretty much it - the IIe is probably the easiest to run across,
still, the II+ is easier to repair than the IIe (no custom VLSI), and
the II is interesting because it's rarer than the II+, even if it has
slightly more primitive graphics (simultaneous colors).
Question 2: Which accessories are significant to keep
(you know, but
hate to say it: "VERY R at RE!!!")? Some
things may be rare, but I doubt I'd use them. For example, the Switch-A-Slot
(see http://tinyurl.com/2m8b3e )
The Super Serial card is a must if you want to attach a serial printer
or move software to and from the machine via serial port (and don't
want to use the joystick interface 'bitbanging' routines). The
IEEE488 card is rare, but unless you want to talk to a PET printer or
a lab voltmeter, of dubious use to the casual Apple user. If that
older Disk ][ card has DOS 3.2 PROMs, that might be a keeper;
otherwise, just keep one Disk ][ card per CPU you keep.
I think a typical installation for a II+ would have been a language
card, possibly a CP/M card, a Disk ][ card, and perhaps either a Super
Serial card or a Grappler-type parallel printer interface with onboard
buffer. We always appreciated the 16K (later 64K, IIRC) buffer on the
Grappler-like card we had because once the last of the file hit the
Grappler, you got control of the machine again, and could go do other
things while the last few pages spewed out of the printer.
I put a lot of hours on the Apple II+, many more than the IIe that
followed. Each model has its appeal (no pun intended), but I don't
recall the last time I saw a straight-II. Seen lots of II+es, and
lots more IIes.
-ethan
7 May
7 May
12:11 a.m.
At 7:30 PM -0400 5/6/07, Ethan Dicks wrote:
want to use the joystick interface 'bitbanging'
routines). The
IEEE488 card is rare, but unless you want to talk to a PET printer or
a lab voltmeter, of dubious use to the casual Apple user. If that
Based on the AD card, and a couple others, I'm guessing that at least
one of the systems was used in a lab environment.
followed. Each model has its appeal (no pun intended),
but I don't
recall the last time I saw a straight-II. Seen lots of II+es, and
lots more IIes.
I have every Apple "Apple II" model in my collection with the
exception of a Straight-II, a IIc+, and I don't believe I have a Woz
or ROM3 IIgs (it seems to me I got a Woz, but never made it home). I
saw a IIc+ once, and still regret not buying it, I've never seen a
straight-II for sale. I used to have several clones as well, but I
think they were all given away.
Zane
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2:47 a.m.
I have every Apple "Apple II" model in my
collection with the
exception of a Straight-II, a IIc+, and I don't believe I have a Woz
or ROM3 IIgs (it seems to me I got a Woz, but never made it home).
I have the best of both worlds -- a ROM 03 in a Woz case!
The SCSI drive, RAM card and TransWarp GS don't hurt either.
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3:08 a.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
I have every Apple "Apple II" model in my
collection with the exception
of a Straight-II, a IIc+, and I don't believe I have a Woz or ROM3 IIgs
(it seems to me I got a Woz, but never made it home). I saw a IIc+
once, and still regret not buying it, I've never seen a straight-II for
sale. I used to have several clones as well, but I think they were all
given away.
I'm actually looking for a monitor for my //c+, if anyone comes across
one they don't want for themselves.
Peace... Sridhar
3:35 a.m.
At 11:08 PM -0400 5/6/07, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
I'm actually looking for a monitor for my //c+, if
anyone comes
across one they don't want for themselves.
The LCD or the CRT? The CRT's used to be semi-easy to come by, the
LCD is another of those things I've never seen.
Zane
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4:02 a.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
Either would do, but I'd prefer if I could find one in platinum instead
of beige, so that it matches my //c+.
Of course, I'd love to find an LCD, but I'm not holding my breath.
Peace... Sridhar
I'm
actually looking for a monitor for my //c+, if anyone comes across
one they don't want for themselves.
The LCD or the CRT? The CRT's used to be semi-easy to come by, the LCD
is another of those things I've never seen.
12:01 a.m.
At 1:58 PM -0700 5/6/07, Scott Austin wrote:
Question 1: Which to keep: II, II+, or IIe? I need to
review Apple
system hardware history, but I'd figure the IIe has the most
capability, but the II is more significant.
If I was to choose, I'd go with the IIe, especially after looking at
the list of HW. That Mockingboard is a soundcard I believe.
Question 2: Which accessories are significant to keep
(you know, but
hate to say it: "VERY R at RE!!!")? Some
things may be rare, but I doubt I'd use them. For example, the Switch-A-Slot
(see http://tinyurl.com/2m8b3e )
Oh, now that's way cool! I've never even heard of such a thing, and
with some of the cards you have you might want to keep it as well.
Good grief, I just read through them again, I'm not sure what to
suggest.
At the very least these 4 cards. Realistically I'm inclined to
recommend keeping all the cards.
Transware Accelerator (Is this a CPU accelerator?)
CMS SCSI II
Apple Super Serial Card II
Apple IIe 80 Col/64K Memory Expansion
I'd also recommend keeping all the software and books.
Very nice haul!
Zane
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3:05 p.m.
Question 1: Which to keep: II, II+, or IIe? I need to
review Apple
system hardware history, but I'd figure the IIe has the most
capability, but the II is more significant.
It depends... if you want to use/play with the computer keep a //e, but
if it'll me more of a personal pride in the rarity of ones collection
that rarely gets turned on, keep a straight II (no suffix). The II, and
the II+ are certainly more rare and I would think bring higher dollars
on Ebay, therefore enabling you to channel your good fortune into
something more inline with your interests..... if your not into rarity.
Me? I have a //e setup similar to what I used in school "back in the
day" :-) It is setup, and once in a while I'll play a game of Moon
Patrol, or simply watch it boot, or make it count to 1 million, and just
enjoy the green glow form it's monochromatic monitor :-)
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, MI
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