24 Jan
2003
24 Jan
'03
12:36 p.m.
Message: 16
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:05:11 -0700
From: Kevin Handy <kth(a)srv.net>
To: cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Bernoulli Dual 20Z
Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
I found a Bernoulli Dual 20Z drive in a thrift shop.
Does anyone know anything about it?
It has a SCSI interface on it, but I don't even know
what capacity of disks it can handle, and where can
I find software to drive it.
They has some "90" disks there too, which do fit
into the drive, but I'd like more info on it than that
The one Bernoulli I once owned used 90mb cartridges, which is probably what
you're looking at, Kevin. Bernoullis were more or less predecessors of Zip
drives, technologically speaking. I may have a Mac SCSI driver around here
somewhere for these things or you might try the Iomega website.
SML
26 Jan
26 Jan
10:39 a.m.
Seth/all,
Actually, he could be looking at a 20MB drive. Iomega produced a dual 20MB
box called the Bernoulli Box II, which had two 5-1/4" 20 meg drives side by
side. I believe the 20Z that Kevin's talking about could have used the old
8" drive cartridges, which Iomega also made about 1987 or so to replace the
original Bernoulli 10MB unit. The 20Z had two 8" drives arranged
vertically, if memory serves.
The SCSI interface was either bootable (a 50B card, I believe) or
non-bootable (a 50 card). I think I still have the manuals and driver disks
as well, on 5-1/4" floppies ONLY. If you need them, let me know ASAP and
I'll dig through the archives. I'm certain I still have a couple of the
interface cards as well.
I also still have the old BBII, with manuals and interface card. I think I
also have an internal 150MB IDE (which reads the 90MB cartridges) and I'm
sitting here looking at four of the 5-1/4" 20MB packs and one of the 150's
on my shelf. Last I tried them (about five years ago), they both still
worked fine.
BTW -- my first post. Been lurking for a few weeks...good stuff here!
Cheers,
Evan Pauley
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Seth Lewin
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:39 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Bernoulli
Message: 16
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:05:11 -0700
From: Kevin Handy <kth(a)srv.net>
To: cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Bernoulli Dual 20Z
Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
I found a Bernoulli Dual 20Z drive in a thrift shop.
Does anyone know anything about it?
It has a SCSI interface on it, but I don't even know
what capacity of disks it can handle, and where can
I find software to drive it.
They has some "90" disks there too, which do fit
into the drive, but I'd like more info on it than that
The one Bernoulli I once owned used 90mb cartridges, which is probably what
you're looking at, Kevin. Bernoullis were more or less predecessors of Zip
drives, technologically speaking. I may have a Mac SCSI driver around here
somewhere for these things or you might try the Iomega website.
SML
27 Jan
27 Jan
1:27 a.m.
Evan R. Pauley wrote:
Seth/all,
Actually, he could be looking at a 20MB drive. Iomega produced a dual 20MB
box called the Bernoulli Box II, which had two 5-1/4" 20 meg drives side by
This is the 5-1/4 unit (side by side) apparently with 20MB drives.
The 90meg 5-1/4 cartridges fit in it, but I doubt that they would
work correctly. Also 20meg is quite small any more. Well, I'll
hang onto it until I find some media to go with it, or someone who
needs it.
side. I believe the 20Z that Kevin's talking about
could have used the old
8" drive cartridges, which Iomega also made about 1987 or so to replace the
original Bernoulli 10MB unit. The 20Z had two 8" drives arranged
vertically, if memory serves.
The SCSI interface was either bootable (a 50B card, I believe) or
non-bootable (a 50 card). I think I still have the manuals and driver disks
as well, on 5-1/4" floppies ONLY. If you need them, let me know ASAP and
I'll dig through the archives. I'm certain I still have a couple of the
interface cards as well.
I think I found the software on iomega's site, but without media
to worrk with, I cant be sure. Since the media seems to be scarce,
it might be a while before I find any to play with.
This unit didn't come with an interface card, so I'm hoping that
a regular SCSI controller can run it.
I also still have the old BBII, with manuals and interface card. I think I
also have an internal 150MB IDE (which reads the 90MB cartridges) and I'm
sitting here looking at four of the 5-1/4" 20MB packs and one of the 150's
on my shelf. Last I tried them (about five years ago), they both still
worked fine.
Well, if you want the two 90meg media, I'll make you a good deal
on them. Don't have anything else to do with them.
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