On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Ok, good (er, bad). I'm glad it's not just me. I wish PINE were so adaptable. I had to filter on the sender name but at least I'll block 99% of them. Fuck, when are they going to come out with email2? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

It was written... purporting so I generally discard about 20 emails a day from the list via moderation that are this trojan horse. It's noticeably stepped up in the past month. J

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, J.C. Wren wrote: God damn it. I'm ready to sue. I think I have an actionable claim against them (as does everyone else who is trying to run a business). This is really slowing me down. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

Jerome Fine replies: The following was in one of the posts to slashdot from the above link: ================================================= In addition to a number of already posted suggestions, I recommend that you call Verisign and file a complaint: +1 703-742-0914 (worldwide) +1 888-642-9675 (toll free US/Canada) When you call, select: * 1 (purchase an product or renew an exist product) * then 7 (all other questions) I recommend that you be patient with the Verisign rep that answers the phone. That person may not fully understand the issue / problem, and they are unlikely to personally be responsible for the Verisign decision. Remember that you are objecting what Verisign as a company is doing. Don't yell at the rep. Be polite but firm. Ask Verisign to stop the wildcarding now. Explain why what they are doing is wrong (such as being unable to determine of a EMail message is being sent from a bogus / non-existent domain because thisdomaindoesnotexist.com resolves to 64.94.110.11). If you do business with Verisign now, tell them that you will switch vendors unless Verisign stops this practice in X weeks. (fill in the X) You might want to leave your phone number and request a callback. Anonymous complaints do not go as far. If you are in the US, you might want to contact your local member of congress and object about what Verisign is doing. Let Verisign know that you are doing this when you call. Yes, they might flush your complaint down /dev/null. But I suspect that pressure from all fronts might help. I have been told (off the record) that some people within Verisign are not happy with their wildcarding. Complaints get logged into a database that these people can review. Your complaints, in volume, might help those folks make a stronger case against top-level wildcarding. ================================================== If enough people in the USA and Canada call the free 800 number (like a million - would that not be nice), perhaps Verisign might decide that it is too expensive to disrupt the 800 number with a lot of (from the point of view of Verisign) non-revenue producing calls! Please suggest if I might be correct! Most of the time the ideas I advance seem to be ignored. If this is a good idea, then send it on the other lists and news groups! Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.