17 Aug
2001
17 Aug
'01
1:46 p.m.
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
Semantics? Around here, "picked up" would include LEARNing, among other
things...
I do think it's less likely for someone to
pick up bad programming
habits if they start with Pascal, but that's not an absolute, just a
probability thing.
Bad programming habits are either LEARNED or NOT CORRECTED early enough! My high school computer science teacher was a great
TEACHER.
I envy people who had the benefit of teachers whose skills were
farther advanced than those of the students. No one could ever
answer the questions I asked, so I realized I'd have to teach myself.
TEACHERS make all the difference! So it is imperative
that you go out and
find STUDENTS to TEACH!
I find myself in a bad situation everytime someone wants me to
"show them"; I show them precisely as I learned, and they just
give me deer-in-the-headlight look. As I said above, no one taught
me, so I'm clueless as to how to teach others.
Regards,
-dq
17 Aug
17 Aug
8:22 p.m.
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
I agree, I was fortunate. But my first programming teacher in 9th grade
was a boob. He basically competed with me on knowledge because I was
already at least at his level of programming ability. We found a common
ground in trading hacked software...some role model :)
My high school
computer science teacher was a great TEACHER.
I envy people who had the benefit of teachers whose skills were
farther advanced than those of the students. No one could ever
answer the questions I asked, so I realized I'd have to teach myself. I find myself in a bad situation everytime someone
wants me to "show
them"; I show them precisely as I learned, and they just give me
deer-in-the-headlight look. As I said above, no one taught me, so I'm
clueless as to how to teach others.
I'm talking mainly about kids, but anyone who is ready to be a programmer
can be taught. But not everyone is a programmer. Those that get it are
programmers. Those that don't are users, and should remain that.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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18 Aug
18 Aug
9:58 a.m.
I agree, I was fortunate. But my first programming
teacher in 9th grade
was a boob. He basically competed with me on knowledge because I was
already at least at his level of programming ability. We found a common
ground in trading hacked software...some role model :)
My initial programming started in a simple data-entry class.
There was a section that introduced BASIC programming but it
certainly wasn't a major part of the class. It caught my interest
though and I was soon far ahead of what was being taught and was
working on programs at home without a computer then bringing them in
to type them in the next day. My Algebra teacher took an interest in
what I was doing and offered help when he could.
Jeff
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