15 Mar
2006
15 Mar
'06
1:31 p.m.
Joe R. wrote:
I agree. Go find a copy of Inside the IBM PC and
the other books
(Assembly Language Programming??) by Peter Norton. They explain the
insides
of the PC very well.
Joe
Ya know, I found the Norton book to be really disjointed --
it didn't present the information in an A to Z sort of way.
IIRC he didn't write it but lent his name to a previously
published book ("Assembly Language Safari on the IBM PC" by
mumble and mumble). I'll check my copy tonight & verify that.
OTOH, "Inside the IBM PC" is a *really* valuable tool,
as well as a historical resource, and you'd have to pry my
first edition copy from my cold, dead hands ;-)
Glen
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15 Mar
15 Mar
10:07 a.m.
At 04:31 PM 3/15/06 -0500, you wrote:
Joe R. wrote:
LOL! You know, I just found a 1st edition copy in my favorite surplus
store and to me it was a REAL find. I've sealed it up and carefully packed
it away with all of my other Version 1.0 software for my mint early PC.
Joe
I agree. Go find a copy of Inside the IBM PC
and the other books
(Assembly Language Programming??) by Peter Norton. They explain the
insides
of the PC very well.
Joe
Ya know, I found the Norton book to be really disjointed --
it didn't present the information in an A to Z sort of way.
IIRC he didn't write it but lent his name to a previously
published book ("Assembly Language Safari on the IBM PC" by
mumble and mumble). I'll check my copy tonight & verify that.
OTOH, "Inside the IBM PC" is a *really* valuable tool,
as well as a historical resource, and you'd have to pry my
first edition copy from my cold, dead hands ;-)
Glen
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3:14 p.m.
Joe R. wrote:
At 04:31 PM 3/15/06 -0500, you wrote:
Seal it up? Pack it away??? I refer to mine about once a
month -- much more often than the third edition, which I also
have.
Glen
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OTOH, "Inside the IBM PC" is a *really*
valuable tool,
as well as a historical resource, and you'd have to pry my
first edition copy from my cold, dead hands ;-)
LOL! You know, I just found a 1st edition copy in my favorite surplus
store and to me it was a REAL find. I've sealed it up and carefully packed
it away with all of my other Version 1.0 software for my mint early PC.
12:35 p.m.
At 06:14 PM 3/15/06 -0500, Glen wrote:
Joe R. wrote:
I seldom refer to it any more but I have a 2nd edition sitting on the
bookshelf about 4 feet from me. It's been there since it was new (20+ years!)
Joe
At 04:31 PM 3/15/06 -0500, you wrote:
Seal it up? Pack it away??? I refer to mine about once a
month -- much more often than the third edition, which I also
have.
OTOH, "Inside the IBM PC" is a *really*
valuable tool,
as well as a historical resource, and you'd have to pry my
first edition copy from my cold, dead hands ;-)
LOL! You know, I just found a 1st edition copy in my favorite surplus
store and to me it was a REAL find. I've sealed it up and carefully packed
it away with all of my other Version 1.0 software for my mint early PC. 
6:24 p.m.
There's another book on my shelf that might be useful: "The Indispensible
PC Hardware Book" by Hans-Peter Messmer (Addison-Wesley 1993 ISBN
0-201-62424). Almost 4 times the thickness of the Morgan+Waite book, but
less hardware oriented (go figure). Lots of interesting software
information. In the way of "big thick square books", "The
Programmer's
PC Sourcebook" by Thom Hogan (Microsoft Press, 1991, ISBN 1-55615-321) is
basically a book full of tables and can occasionally be quite useful--in
additon to the endless Microsoft OS tables, there are pinouts for some
chips, bus connector signal assignments, command sets for peripherals and
BIOS calls.
While we're at it, let's not forget the books from Phoenix Technologies on
the subject of BIOS implementations.
Cheers,
Chuck
3:14 p.m.
Glen Goodwin wrote:
OTOH, "Inside the IBM PC" is a *really*
valuable tool,
as well as a historical resource, and you'd have to pry my
first edition copy from my cold, dead hands ;-)
Would you happen to have the exact author or ISBN number? I'd love to
go hunting for this.
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3:49 p.m.
Jim Leonard wrote:
Glen Goodwin wrote:
Sure -- I'll be hitting my library tonight anyway, so
I'll get the info for you & post it here tomorrow.
Another KILLER book is the 1st edition of "Upgrading
And Repairing PCs" by Scott Mueller, ISBN 0-88022-395-2,
copyright 1988 by Que Corporation. Although it's later
than "Inside...", it has a ton of historical and technical
data, including original pricing, on the PC, PC Convertible,
PC XT, 3270 PC, XT 370, Portable PC, PC AT, 3270 AT, AT 370,
XT Model 286, ans PS/2 Models 25, 30, 30-286, 50, 60, 70
and 80. REALLY comprehensive!
Glen
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OTOH, "Inside the IBM PC" is a *really*
valuable tool,
as well as a historical resource, and you'd have to pry my
first edition copy from my cold, dead hands ;-)
Would you happen to have the exact author or ISBN number? I'd love to
go hunting for this.
12:39 p.m.
At 06:49 PM 3/15/06 -0500, you wrote:
Jim Leonard wrote:
I agree! This is one book that no one that has any dealings with the PC
should be without! The current editions are VERY helpful and the old
editions contain tons of technical details on the older machines! One of
the nice things about this book is that it's extensively revised every year
and the older editions are CHEAP once they're no longer current. I
frequently find them in the used book stores for a dollar or two apiece.
Joe
Glen Goodwin wrote:
Sure -- I'll be hitting my library tonight anyway, so
I'll get the info for you & post it here tomorrow.
Another KILLER book is the 1st edition of "Upgrading
And Repairing PCs" by Scott Mueller, ISBN 0-88022-395-2,
copyright 1988 by Que Corporation. Although it's later
than "Inside...", it has a ton of historical and technical
data, including original pricing, on the PC, PC Convertible,
PC XT, 3270 PC, XT 370, Portable PC, PC AT, 3270 AT, AT 370,
XT Model 286, ans PS/2 Models 25, 30, 30-286, 50, 60, 70
and 80. REALLY comprehensive! OTOH, "Inside the IBM PC" is a *really*
valuable tool,
as well as a historical resource, and you'd have to pry my
first edition copy from my cold, dead hands ;-)
Would you happen to have the exact author or ISBN number? I'd love to
go hunting for this.
Glen
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9:50 p.m.
New subject: Canon L10130 MO drive
I've been looking around for any information about these drives.
Apparently they were fitted into some HP units at some point in time.
I'd like to know the media (size, bytes/sector) so I can get some
media and test them out.
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