One of my all-time favorite .sig lines (I forget whose it was) said: " Don't think of it as a `new' computer, think of it as `obsolete-ready' " While collectors may argue about "obsolete" - a term, that to my ears, smacks of PC-clone salesman-speak - in the world of business and industrial computing, platforms that are old and well-established are called "legacy systems". It's generally acknowledged that if a system does its job well and reliably, it is "legacy"; the mark of a non-legacy system is that it is under constant development, crashes often, and doesn't fill its design specs. Of course, here I'm talking about more than hardware, and more than hardware+software, but how a system fits into the real world and performs a useful function. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927