I made arrangements with a national trucking company. If you get set up with a business account (takes several days) you can get 50+% off the normal tariff rates. Dan -----Original Message----- From: George Currie <g(a)kurico.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:46 PM Subject: Shipping old heavy stuff What shipping methods do people prefer for shipping larger (say > 100lbs, large deskside, small mini type) systems. If you send it through ups are you just guaranteeing it'll get banged up? What alternative, relatively inexpensive methods are available? George