I knew he had some trouble originally. From the story I heard (well, peiced together), he originally was hosting the manuals directly. Apple complained, so he changed the links to their servers. I figured if Apple complained once, it was only a matter of time before he was shut down entirely. Thanks for the new link... this time I was smart enough to save the page locally, so I can stick it on my web site. I think I will take some time next week to just start pulling all the manuals down (CD-Rs are such a wonderful thing) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>