12 Aug
2016
12 Aug
'16
8:48 a.m.
This is for all my SGI guys out there.
http://insidehpc.com/2016/08/hewlett-packard-enterprise-to-acquire-sgi-to-e…
12 Aug
12 Aug
9 a.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and killed palm. Now they want to destroy also
what's left of SGI ?
Better I don't say what I'm really thinking...
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Christian Liendo
Inviato: venerd? 12 agosto 2016 14:49
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: HP to acquire SGI
This is for all my SGI guys out there.
http://insidehpc.com/2016/08/hewlett-packard-enterprise-to-acquire-sgi-to-e…
9:17 a.m.
>Now they want to destroy also what's left of
SGI ?
SGI was already destroyed decades ago. With more vision, they could have
transitioned the business into becoming an Nvidia instead of a faceless
rack server company.
Especially with the world looking into VR, the original SGI could
legitimately say "Hey, we've already got decades of experience in this!!"
Its a shame, really.
Todd Killingsworth
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and killed
palm. Now they want
to destroy also what's left of SGI ?
Better I don't say what I'm really thinking...
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Christian
Liendo
Inviato: venerd? 12 agosto 2016 14:49
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: HP to acquire SGI
This is for all my SGI guys out there.
http://insidehpc.com/2016/08/hewlett-packard-enterprise-to-
acquire-sgi-to-extend-leadership-in-high-growth-big-
data-analytics-and-high-performance-computing/
12:33 p.m.
On 08/12/2016 06:17 AM, Todd Killingsworth wrote:
SGI was already destroyed decades ago. With more
vision, they could
have transitioned the business into becoming an Nvidia instead of a
faceless rack server company.
But that's really what SGI is/was today--the former Rackable Systems who
inherited the name after purchasing the Chapter 11 remains of SGI back
in 2009, except for some tidbits held by a mystery group called
"Graphics Properties Holdings, Inc.", which is probably the name of some
file in a lawyer's office in New Rochelle. GPH is mostly known for
using old SGI patents to go after the likes of Samsung, Google and Amazon.
In the 1990s, SGI always seemed to me to be more of a hedge fund
operations, acquiring and then relinquishing MIPS and Cray, picking up
Intergraph and Wavefront. I suspect that releasing MIPS and Cray via
IPOs was a way to raise capital.
Whatever, the original company and mindset is long gone. No use crying
over spilt milk.
--Chuck
5:34 p.m.
On 08/12/2016 11:33 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Whatever, the original company and mindset is long
gone. No use crying
over spilt milk.
Company, mindset, and the industry in which it operated, to be honest. I
don't think I could get particularly excited about putting a SGI-branded
graphics card in my PC, no matter how good it might be.
Jules
7:15 p.m.
On Friday (08/12/2016 at 09:33AM -0700), Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 08/12/2016 06:17 AM, Todd Killingsworth wrote:
There are some SGI people here in MN that figure, from a severance
standpoint, getting laid off from HP is probably better than getting
laid off from SGI. So, you know, they have new found optimism.
--
Chris Elmquist
SGI was already destroyed decades ago. With more
vision, they could
have transitioned the business into becoming an Nvidia instead of a
faceless rack server company.
But that's really what SGI is/was today--the former Rackable Systems who
inherited the name after purchasing the Chapter 11 remains of SGI back
in 2009, except for some tidbits held by a mystery group called
"Graphics Properties Holdings, Inc.", which is probably the name of some
file in a lawyer's office in New Rochelle. GPH is mostly known for
using old SGI patents to go after the likes of Samsung, Google and Amazon.
In the 1990s, SGI always seemed to me to be more of a hedge fund
operations, acquiring and then relinquishing MIPS and Cray, picking up
Intergraph and Wavefront. I suspect that releasing MIPS and Cray via
IPOs was a way to raise capital.
Whatever, the original company and mindset is long gone. No use crying
over spilt milk. 
11:15 a.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:
It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and killed
palm. Now they want
to destroy also what's left of SGI ?
Better I don't say what I'm really thinking...
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for men of good conscience to
remain silent."
Apollo, DEC, Compaq, Ericsson, Palm, . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Hewlett-Packard
If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to computers?
11:28 a.m.
On Aug 12, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Fred Cisin <cisin at
xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:
No, but it might put an end to the resulting company.
Note that HP didn't acquire DEC, or Palm; both had been absorbed by other companies
well before HP swooped in to grab those. For example, I don't think anything was left
of Palm long before HP bought up the remnants of 3Com.
paul
It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and
killed palm. Now they want to destroy also what's left of SGI ?
Better I don't say what I'm really thinking...
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for men of good conscience to remain
silent."
Apollo, DEC, Compaq, Ericsson, Palm, . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Hewlett-Packard
If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to computers?
11:40 a.m.
> If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to
computers?
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
No, but it might put an end to the resulting company.
Would that stop it from pushing Windoze10 "upgrade"?
Note that HP didn't acquire DEC, or Palm; both had
been absorbed by
other companies well before HP swooped in to grab those. For example, I
don't think anything was left of Palm long before HP bought up the
remnants of 3Com.
It's easier to buy up the wreckage afterwards.
If Adam Osborne had listened to my suggestion and bought the residue of
Visicalc, then Lotus could not have laid a hand on him.
(the real reason why Novell bought Digital Research)
I remember when HP was innovative, and made great test equipment.
In those days, even Microsoft made good stuff.
11:43 a.m.
On Aug 12, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Fred Cisin <cisin at
xenosoft.com> wrote:
...
I remember when HP was innovative, and made great test equipment.
They still do, but that part hasn't been called HP for a long time. I figured when HP
split into a test equipment company and an ink company, the outcome was obvious. I think
the ink company is still doing reasonably well (for a commodity business); the rest is not
so happy.
paul
12:54 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Fred Cisin wrote:
If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to computers?
No, but it might create a Black Hole of Fail that would evour the planet.
g.
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12:57 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, geneb wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Fred Cisin wrote:
*sigh*
s/evour/devour
:wq
g.
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ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to computers?
No, but it might create a Black Hole of Fail that would evour the planet. 
13 Aug
13 Aug
11:09 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On 8/12/2016 9:15 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:
HP-BOX now runs all the games and windows* too. Ben.
* Game of upgrading every 9 months.
It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and
killed palm. Now they
want to destroy also what's left of SGI ?
Better I don't say what I'm really thinking...
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for men of good conscience to
remain silent."
Apollo, DEC, Compaq, Ericsson, Palm, . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Hewlett-Packard
If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to computers? 
14 Aug
14 Aug
4:08 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:09 PM, ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
On 8/12/2016 9:15 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
Grab all the SGI docs/bits you can, before HP sends them to /dev/null and
404....
--
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The Information School <http://ischool.uw.edu>
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens
Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal <http://tribunalvoices.org>
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab <http://vsdesign.org>
University of Washington
There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:
HP-BOX now runs all the games and windows* too. Ben.
* Game of upgrading every 9 months.
It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and
killed palm. Now they
want to destroy also what's left of SGI ?
Better I don't say what I'm really thinking...
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for men of good conscience to
remain silent."
Apollo, DEC, Compaq, Ericsson, Palm, . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Hewlett-Packard
If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to computers?
5:02 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On 08/14/2016 13:08, Ian S. King wrote:
Grab all the SGI docs/bits you can, before HP sends them to /dev/null and
404....
SGI "retired" their excellent TechPubs system not very long ago when
they outsourced customer support, thereby removing all the docs and
patches that still covered many of the MIPS-based products of the
original company. There are a couple mirrors around in various states of
functionality, the one I've been referring folks to is at
http://techpubs.jurassic.nl, with thanks to Jan-Jaap.
In HP(e)'s defense, they have so far kept an awful lot of DEC and Compaq
material online. Perhaps that's by accident as much as intent, but I'm
not complaining either way... For instance, I was just perusing (and
saving) the DEC Tech Journal from 1991 - 1998, which is archived under
the HP Journal (http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/journal.html) and
alongside the Tandem Systems Review.
--S.
6:06 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who might know where or what
continue misinterpreted slang as belief from persons when machine tries all
un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years when knowing certain
machine yells like that causing this reaction up too the point of watch it
like Telly is actually unknown as herds follow alng so had too give up
after trying chat as goes berserk in convinced non yells are from of things
you would say as nots with non intentions how then lay it a self or group
paranoi bash out of oo,dear there's lots of nasty people etc...
IBM?
On Sunday, August 14, 2016, Steven M Jones <classiccmp at crash.com> wrote:
On 08/14/2016 13:08, Ian S. King wrote:
--
Sent from Gmail Mobile incognito
Grab all the SGI docs/bits you can, before HP sends them to /dev/null and
404....
SGI "retired" their excellent TechPubs system not very long ago when
they outsourced customer support, thereby removing all the docs and
patches that still covered many of the MIPS-based products of the
original company. There are a couple mirrors around in various states of
functionality, the one I've been referring folks to is at
http://techpubs.jurassic.nl, with thanks to Jan-Jaap.
In HP(e)'s defense, they have so far kept an awful lot of DEC and Compaq
material online. Perhaps that's by accident as much as intent, but I'm
not complaining either way... For instance, I was just perusing (and
saving) the DEC Tech Journal from 1991 - 1998, which is archived under
the HP Journal (http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/journal.html) and
alongside the Tandem Systems Review.
--S.
8:35 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who might
know where or what
continue misinterpreted slang as belief from persons when machine tries all
un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years when knowing certain
machine yells like that causing this reaction up too the point of watch it
like Telly is actually unknown as herds follow alng so had too give up
after trying chat as goes berserk in convinced non yells are from of things
you would say as nots with non intentions how then lay it a self or group
paranoi bash out of oo,dear there's lots of nasty people etc...
IBM?
So what dressing goes best with Word Salad?
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
8:47 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On 8/14/2016 6:35 PM, geneb wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
Banana!
The random monkeys typing on keyboards need feeding again.
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who
might know where or what
continue misinterpreted slang as belief from persons when machine
tries all
un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years when knowing
certain
machine yells like that causing this reaction up too the point of
watch it
like Telly is actually unknown as herds follow alng so had too give up
after trying chat as goes berserk in convinced non yells are from of
things
you would say as nots with non intentions how then lay it a self or group
paranoi bash out of oo,dear there's lots of nasty people etc...
IBM?
So what dressing goes best with Word Salad?
g.
9:19 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
Could you get that translated into English, please?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who might
know where or what
continue misinterpreted slang as belief from persons when machine tries all
un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years when knowing certain
machine yells like that causing this reaction up too the point of watch it
like Telly is actually unknown as herds follow alng so had too give up
after trying chat as goes berserk in convinced non yells are from of things
you would say as nots with non intentions how then lay it a self or group
paranoi bash out of oo,dear there's lots of nasty people etc...
IBM?
k
9:51 p.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
whats really a shame is our economic system requiring a growth rate of X
percentage no mater how much money u make like a multi billion dallor
company sees 500mill growth from the yr befor but its shy 2% of what was
expected stock tanks yet it made 500million more in proffit thats whats
wrong what caused the dec take over by compaq and then hp and now this.....
messed... and siemes and all these other companies doing this.. comcast
caugh caugh...........
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
Could you get that translated into English, please?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who might know where or what
continue misinterpreted slang as belief from
persons when machine tries
all
un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years when knowing certain
machine yells like that causing this reaction up too the point of watch it
like Telly is actually unknown as herds follow alng so had too give up
after trying chat as goes berserk in convinced non yells are from of
things
you would say as nots with non intentions how then lay it a self or group
paranoi bash out of oo,dear there's lots of nasty people etc...
IBM?
k
15 Aug
15 Aug
1:13 a.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
You must be as crazy as listened too yers English tea cheers who Z HAS you
back in nineteenth century standing ON words where you big your LiVV,leper
key Id boss shrink biz kits,yeah?
IBM,the company 5150-Apple NY
No states.
The end
Monkey swing in tree,no nana aka pied pipe York key hill March back hare
rabbit rabbit punch tune eight shun key of C...mug.
On Monday, August 15, 2016, Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com> wrote:
whats really a shame is our economic system requiring
a growth rate of X
percentage no mater how much money u make like a multi billion dallor
companyyo sees 500mill growth from the yr befor but its shy 2% of what was
expected stock tanks yet it made 500million more in proffit thats whats
wrong what caused the dec take over by compaq and then hp and now this.....
messed... and siemes and all these other companies doing this.. comcast
caugh caugh...........
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com
<javascript:;>> wrote:
--
Sent from Gmail Mobile incognito
Could you get that translated into English,
please?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
Have ideas but inflames the issue as those who might know where or what
> continue misinterpreted slang as belief from persons when machine tries
> all
> un mannered ways too oppo ate ,have sat for few years when knowing
certain
> machine yells like that causing this reaction
up too the point of watch
it
> like Telly is actually unknown as herds
follow alng so had too give up
> after trying chat as goes berserk in convinced non yells are from of
> things
> you would say as nots with non intentions how then lay it a self or
group
paranoi
bash out of oo,dear there's lots of nasty people etc...
IBM?
k
10:29 a.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Steve Bez wrote:
You must be as crazy as listened too yers English tea
cheers who Z HAS you
back in nineteenth century standing ON words where you big your LiVV,leper
key Id boss shrink biz kits,yeah?
IBM,the company 5150-Apple NY
No states.
The end
Monkey swing in tree,no nana aka pied pipe York key hill March back hare
rabbit rabbit punch tune eight shun key of C...mug.
*sigh*
Morons gonna moron.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
12:21 a.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On 08/14/2016 06:19 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
Could you get that translated into English, please?
Sure, Fred:
"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod
tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim
veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea
commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate
velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint
occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
mollit anim id est laborum."
i.e., it's just filler text to get through someone's SPAM filter.
--Chuck
1:14 a.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
My English commuter wrote that,I know you won't believe me whatever you
do,but Latin 3 isn't a Television man?
Why ?cape Rozzetta,no GCHQ
Chess us.
Cards got trump ?
Ed
On Monday, August 15, 2016, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 08/14/2016 06:19 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
--
Sent from Gmail Mobile incognito
Could you get that translated into English,
please?
Sure, Fred:
"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod
tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim
veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea
commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate
velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint
occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
mollit anim id est laborum."
i.e., it's just filler text to get through someone's SPAM filter.
--Chuck
8:54 a.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
Hey read ,it's not about persons,the me,hang boss spam off yer troll
e.read,or leave it alone.
On Monday, August 15, 2016, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
On 8/14/16 10:14 PM, Steve Bez wrote:
--
Sent from Gmail Mobile incognito
My English commuter wrote that
Can someone remove this git off the list, please?
9:12 a.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
Yes. Done.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 1:55 AM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: R: HP to acquire SGI
On 8/14/16 10:14 PM, Steve Bez wrote:
My English commuter wrote that
Can someone remove this git off the list, please?
10:33 a.m.
New subject: R: HP to acquire SGI
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Jay West wrote:
Yes. Done.
\o/
g.
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A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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