On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Joe wrote: The 3/60 is a 'large pizzabox' desktop chassis. It should have a badge on the front that says '3/60'. The CG4 is a color framebuffer, and may preset itself as either 4 BNC connectors or a 13W3 connector on the back panel of a machine it's installed in. A CG6 will present itself as a 13W3 connector in the same space. There is another add-on framebuffer that I'm not interested in, which is the MG3. The way to tell from the back panel is that a 13W3 _and_ a DE9F connector (in the 'mono' cutout) will be present. I'm not interested in the MG3. The CG4 was available on other Sun models as well, and while the reverse isn't generally true, CG4s from these models will work in the 3/60. 3/80 4/110 4/330 (SPARCstation 330) There might be more I can't think of off the top of my head. Generally, Sun didn't put model identification badges on systems until the Sun3 era, but even still if you find a Sun 2/anything (or a 1/anything, for that matter), I want to hear about it. (: Thanks! ok r.