The 386's are 12 years old, but most machines that have them are 9 years or less. The 486's will celebrae their 8th birthday soon, but most computers that had them (outside of servers and REAL pro computers) were made in '92-'95, then they were replaced by faster Pentiums. Hope that helps, Tim D. Hotze photze(a)batelco.com.bh ---------- From: PG Manney <manney(a)nwohio.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: 386 to 486 upgrade chip wanted Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 5:19 PM Wanted -- 386 to 486 upgrade chip -- 386-40 DX CPU 486 motherboard & chip (are those >10 yrs old, yet?) Thanks, manney(a)nwohio.com