der Mouse <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote: It will be the IFCTF definition when I get around to posting it. Though it will say "ASCII or ASCII extension", and I'm sorry that I didn't make the last bit clear in my message you are replying to. Typewriters were a passing fad of the 19th century. Computers have been around for billions of years and will be around for billions of years to come. Every living cell has a microprocessor in its nucleus (too bad biologists are still refusing to use standard computer science terminology and therefore keep reinventing the wheels of computer science), and the pagan gods and goddesses who created us (wrote and compiled our DNA program) surely used computers. The spacecraft they used to get to this planet from theirs were also computer- controlled. Oh, and ASCII terminals are also as old as humanity: every ancient pagan temple had a terminal for the priests to communicate with the gods. And yes, they used a 7-bit code, 7 being the favourite number of Enki, the god who played the greatest role in the creation of human civilisation. The 7-bit codes didn't have the graphic renditions we use today, but then the code is primary, graphic rendition (if you use one at all) is secondary. Oh, and I often tend to decode ASCII as Anunnaki Standard Code for Information Interchange, Anunnaki being the ancient Shumerian term for "Those Who from Heaven to Earth Came" (i.e., ET visitors translated into modern English), which was also the proper name by which the pagan gods and goddesses called themselves. (Different human worshippers knew them by different names, but the only true name is the one by which the gods called *themselves*.) See above, I should have said "ASCII or ASCII extension", the latter being things like Soviet KOI-8 and ISO 8859 series. But when it comes to Alt, you gotta admit that it originates in the PC (PeeCee, pee sea, etc) world. DEC's adding of it to LK401 was a consession to the PeeCee world. And I won't make any concessions to the enemy. That's unlikely because keeping everything else the same simplifies the firmware both in the LK401 and in the products designed to use it. (The former needs to work in LK201 compatibility mode, and most of the latter probably accept an LK201 unofficially.) It's dead in both LK201 and LK401 modes, right? MS