But if you do: If you have the time and interest to wander out to York U on a Friday morning: I've been asked to make a presentation there. My theme (if I don't wander too far off the subject) is "Computer hobbyists of the 70s and 80s" - mostly from a Commodore user perspective, of course. It runs about an hour. This is in connection with a computer museum at York; a bunch of older computers (including lotsa Commodores) will be on display. A little more information can be found at: http://www.cs.yorku.ca/museum/events/events.htm (gosh, I think they must have retouched my photo). And the YorkU host, Zbigniew Stachniak, says: So come along if you have time and inclination (like the guy who leaned his grandfather clock agains the wall), and we'll all revise history together. :-) --Jim Butterfield Jim "the other Jim" Brain. -- Jim Brain, Brain Innovations brain at jbrain.com http://www.jbrain.com Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!