20 Jul
1999
20 Jul
'99
2:34 p.m.
No. Byte Magazine first used the term "laptop" in reference to a production
computer, after viewing the Epson HX-20 at a trade show in November 1981.
The Model 100 came out in March 1983.
Kai
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From: Max Eskin [mailto:max82@surfree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 2:54 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: First laptop?
Hi,
I walked into Radio Shack today, and was delighted to see a row of posters
on their wall with photos of old Radio Shack stores and equipment from the
beginning of the chain to now. They mentioned that the TRS Model 100 was
'the first laptop in the industry'. Is this even marginally true?
--Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com)
http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power
21 Jul
21 Jul
12:49 a.m.
While the Epson HX-20 can lay claim to being the first laptop, it had some
severe limitations, the most evident being its 20x4 character LCD display.
The TRS-80 Model 100 had a much more useable 40x8 character display. The
Model 100 also had a built-in editor, address book, schedule, and
telecommunications program, which made it useful right out of the box,
especially for journalists. The result was that the model 100 probably
got more press.
Now, does anyone know which the first notebook was? Was it the Grid
Compass, or the DG/One? Or something else I've never heard of?
-- Bill
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Kai Kaltenbach wrote:
No. Byte Magazine first used the term
"laptop" in reference to a production
computer, after viewing the Epson HX-20 at a trade show in November 1981.
The Model 100 came out in March 1983.
Kai
-----Original Message-----
From: Max Eskin [mailto:max82@surfree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 2:54 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: First laptop?
Hi,
I walked into Radio Shack today, and was delighted to see a row of posters
on their wall with photos of old Radio Shack stores and equipment from the
beginning of the chain to now. They mentioned that the TRS Model 100 was
'the first laptop in the industry'. Is this even marginally true?
--Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com)
http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power
5:31 a.m.
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Bill Sheehan wrote:
While the Epson HX-20 can lay claim to being the first
laptop, it had some
severe limitations, the most evident being its 20x4 character LCD display.
The TRS-80 Model 100 had a much more useable 40x8 character display. The
Model 100 also had a built-in editor, address book, schedule, and
telecommunications program, which made it useful right out of the box,
The real question is who made it for tandy and what other name did it sell
as?
What about the NEC 8201?
Allison
9:42 a.m.
> While the Epson HX-20 can lay claim to being the
first laptop, it had some
> severe limitations, the most evident being its 20x4 character LCD display.
> The TRS-80 Model 100 had a much more useable 40x8 character display. The
> Model 100 also had a built-in editor, address book, schedule, and
> telecommunications program, which made it useful right out of the box,
The real question is who made it for tandy and what
other name did it sell
as?
Well, one might also have to include more enviromental information,
as in 'In what country way whitch system the first available laptop'
...
What about the NEC 8201?
:))
Gruss
H.
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9:48 a.m.
Rumor has it that allisonp(a)world.std.com may have mentioned these words:
The real question is who made it for tandy and what
other name did it sell
as?
What about the NEC 8201?
Yes, that was also made by the "Model T" OEM manufacturer, which was
Kyocera. They also made the Olivetti M-10 (I think... bitrot may be in
effect here) and others.
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7:06 a.m.
[M100]
> The real question is who made it for tandy and what other name did it sell
> as?
Kyocera?
> What about the NEC 8201?
What about the Olivetti M10? It's an almost
chipwise clone of the Tandy
M100.
Well, Nec, Olivetti, Tandy, Hitachi... all this systems are based
on a common, licenced/shared (Kyocera) design. No cloning at all.
(Looks a bit like a first try for the MSX standard :)
Gruss
H.
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21 Jul
21 Jul
4:59 p.m.
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote:
The real question is who made it for tandy and what
other name did it sell
as?
What about the NEC 8201?
HA! Good point! What about the Kyocera 85?
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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4:57 p.m.
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Bill Sheehan wrote:
While the Epson HX-20 can lay claim to being the first
laptop, it had some
severe limitations, the most evident being its 20x4 character LCD display.
The TRS-80 Model 100 had a much more useable 40x8 character display. The
Better as the M100 was, the fact is the HX-20 was still usable in the same
sense, and was in fact the first. By that same logic I can claim my
Compaq Armada SB is the "first" laptop.
especially for journalists. The result was that the
model 100 probably
got more press.
True.
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10:39 a.m.
New subject: HP3000/950 gone to scrap
I walked into the salvage place yesterday with some paperwork on a deal to
buy the HP3000, but it was GONE. Sic transit scrap metal.
There are still some boxes of manuals, but them may be gone as well by the
next time I get to visit.
3:43 p.m.
New subject: HP3000/950 gone to scrap
Mike, what is the name of this "Salvage Place" ?
--Chuck
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