10 May
2015
10 May
'15
4:45 p.m.
John wrote....
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I'm still looking for Oregon Software Pascal as well...
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I said I would look, I did, and it was fruitful.
I have in my hands an original distribution fedex shipping box from Oregon software to my
high school (Saint Louis University High) containing:
Oregon Software Pascal-2 Software Development System version 2.1F for RT-11 release
package checklist (RN-121, august 1988):
Installation & Release notes
Oregon Language Letter, Summer 1988, announcing two new compilers (Oregon Modula-2 and
Oregon C++)
8 SS/SD RX01 format disks containing P-2 RT-11 v2.1F (original, Oregon software labels,
including my high schools site/license number)
Oregon Software Field Report form (4 carbon copy)
Misc Notes of my own from a skim of the above:
The compiler version here runs under RT-11 v5 or later
The compiler can run under XM or SJ monitors
Programs compiled with the compiler can run under FB, BL, SJ, or XM
Minimum requirements: EIS. P-2 uses FPP hardware or simulated floating point software
(FIS). Also need 3500 blocks to install, and during compilation about 500 blocks are used
for temporary storage. Computers with only flexible disk systems do not have enough
storage.
I have no idea if these diskettes are still readable. I know my high school was fastidious
about making a copy and then locking the masters away so these disks likely only saw one
read. I do know that they used this software extensively, and there may well be other
copies of these floppies around here.
I'd love to post images of these diskettes, but I don't know the status of Oregon
Software and the IP situation.
So in the interest of completeness, anyone have other RT-11 versions of other Oregon
Software's compilers?
I also found original S&H distribution copies of TSX+ v5, v6, and v6.2 (again, stamped
with my high schools license number).
Best,
J
10 May
10 May
4:51 p.m.
On May 10, 2015, at 1:45 PM, "Jay West" <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I'd love to post images of these diskettes, but I
don't know the status of Oregon Software and the IP situation.
I should know, but can't remember, was Oregon Software a project out of OMSI? I know
OMSI did PDP-11 software development at one point.
Zane
5:10 p.m.
On 05/10/2015 03:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
On May 10, 2015, at 1:45 PM, "Jay West"
<jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Yes, I'm sure these are the same
company.
Jon
I'd love to post images of these diskettes,
but I don't know the status of Oregon Software and the IP situation.
I should
know, but can't remember, was Oregon Software a project out of OMSI? I know OMSI did
PDP-11 software development at one point. 
5:47 p.m.
On May 10, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Jon Elson <elson at
pico-systems.com> wrote:
On 05/10/2015 03:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
OMSI actual stands for (at least originally) Oregon Museum of Science and Industry, and
yes, they were creators of software that ended up being commercialized.
paul
On May 10, 2015, at 1:45 PM, "Jay West"
<jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Yes, I'm sure these are the same
company. I'd love to post images of these diskettes,
but I don't know the status of Oregon Software and the IP situation.
I should
know, but can't remember, was Oregon Software a project out of OMSI? I know OMSI did
PDP-11 software development at one point. 
7:13 p.m.
On 2015-05-10 23:47, Paul Koning wrote:
Yeah, that matches my memory as well.
And I thought I had seen OMSI Pascal for RSTS/E or RT-11 on Trailing
Edge, but I can only find it for RSX now that I'm looking around...
Oh well...
Johnny
On May 10, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Jon Elson <elson
at pico-systems.com> wrote:
On 05/10/2015 03:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
OMSI actual stands for (at least originally) Oregon Museum of Science and Industry, and
yes, they were creators of software that ended up being commercialized. On May 10, 2015, at 1:45 PM, "Jay West"
<jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Yes, I'm sure these are the same
company. I'd love to post images of these diskettes,
but I don't know the status of Oregon Software and the IP situation.
I should
know, but can't remember, was Oregon Software a project out of OMSI? I know OMSI did
PDP-11 software development at one point.
10:19 p.m.
On May 10, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote:
That's still what it stands for, and they're still around.
Zane
On May 10, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Jon Elson <elson
at pico-systems.com> wrote:
On 05/10/2015 03:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
OMSI actual stands for (at least originally) Oregon Museum of Science and Industry, and
yes, they were creators of software that ended up being commercialized.
paul On May 10, 2015, at 1:45 PM, "Jay West"
<jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Yes, I'm sure these are the same
company. I'd love to post images of these diskettes,
but I don't know the status of Oregon Software and the IP situation.
I should
know, but can't remember, was Oregon Software a project out of OMSI? I know OMSI did
PDP-11 software development at one point.
11 May
11 May
9:18 a.m.
On 2015-05-11 04:19, Zane Healy wrote:
On May 10, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote:
That's still what it stands for, and they're still around.
They are? We should talk to them about getting the OMSI Pascal released
then. There are things I'd like to improve in there... :-)
Johnny
On May 10, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Jon Elson <elson
at pico-systems.com> wrote:
On 05/10/2015 03:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
OMSI actual stands for (at least originally) Oregon Museum of Science and Industry, and
yes, they were creators of software that ended up being commercialized.
paul On May 10, 2015, at 1:45 PM, "Jay West"
<jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I'd love to post images of these diskettes, but I don't know the status of
Oregon Software and the IP situation.
I should know, but can't remember, was Oregon Software a project out of OMSI? I know
OMSI did PDP-11 software development at one point.
Yes, I'm sure these are the
same company.
10:43 a.m.
On May 11, 2015, at 6:18 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
They are? We should talk to them about getting the OMSI Pascal released then. There are
things I'd like to improve in there... :-)
Johnny
Good luck trying to find anyone there that knows that they had anything to do with
PDP-11's. They moved at some point in the late 80's or early 90's, at which
time they became far less interesting. I never knew they did anything PDP-11 related
until the late-90's, thanks in part to this list.
http://www.omsi.edu
What *I* would really love to find out more about is the graphical "Hunt the
Wumpus" game that they had as an exhibit.
Zane
OMSI actual stands for (at least originally) Oregon
Museum of Science and Industry, and yes, they were creators of software that ended up
being commercialized.
paul
That's still what it stands for, and they're still around.
12 May
12 May
9:11 a.m.
On 2015-05-11 16:43, Zane Healy wrote:
On May 11, 2015, at 6:18 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
They are? We should talk to them about getting the OMSI Pascal released then. There are
things I'd like to improve in there... :-)
Johnny
Good luck trying to find anyone there that knows that they had anything to do with
PDP-11's. They moved at some point in the late 80's or early 90's, at which
time they became far less interesting. I never knew they did anything PDP-11 related
until the late-90's, thanks in part to this list.
http://www.omsi.edu
Hmm. That turned out to be slightly different than what I expected... :-)
But anyway, OMSI Pascal was carried on by Oregon Software, which if I
understand things right was a spinoff from OMSI. That is the company I
would like to find the remnants of.
Johnny
OMSI actual stands for (at least originally) Oregon
Museum of Science and Industry, and yes, they were creators of software that ended up
being commercialized.
paul
That's still what it stands for, and they're still around. 
17 May
17 May
10:07 a.m.
Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-05-11 16:43, Zane Healy wrote:
It took me a few days to locate the manuals and check the date
on the PASCAL.SAV file. The manual has PASCAL-2 V2.1D
and the file is 397 blocks with a date of 19-Sep-1985. There is
also a PASCAL.OBJ file with the libraries.
For some reason, there must have been some development after
1999, so there is also a patched file which provides the correct
date on the listing file which is generated. The patch is less than
a dozen extra instructions and consists of a subroutine call which
checks the 2 high order bits of the date to determine the correct
year under RT-11. There are no corresponding patches for the
libraries at this time.
If anyone is able to sort out the IP aspects, I can make the files
available along with the manuals which are in poor condition.
Jerome Fine
On May 11, 2015, at 6:18 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
Good luck trying to find anyone there that knows that they had
anything to do with PDP-11's. They moved at some point in the late
80's or early 90's, at which time they became far less interesting.
I never knew they did anything PDP-11 related until the late-90's,
thanks in part to this list.
http://www.omsi.edu
Hmm. That turned out to be slightly different than what I expected... :-)
But anyway, OMSI Pascal was carried on by Oregon Software, which if I
understand things right was a spinoff from OMSI. That is the company I
would like to find the remnants of. > OMSI
actual stands for (at least originally) Oregon Museum of
> Science and Industry, and yes, they were creators of software that
> ended up being commercialized.
>
> paul
That's still what it stands for, and they're still around.
They are? We should talk to them about getting the OMSI Pascal
released then. There are things I'd like to improve in there... :-)
Johnny
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