30 Mar
2005
30 Mar
'05
12:56 p.m.
On Mar 30 2005, 14:36, Jules Richardson wrote:
Back on topic, does the correct pronunciation of
kludge contain the
'd',
or is it silent? 98% of people here in the UK seem to
pronounce the
d,
but I've heard a few who don't. Mind you,
'bodge' is an equivalent
and
more commonly heard over here than kludge.
"Bodge" doesn't mean the same thing at all. You're probably thinking
of "botch", which means (v) to screw something up, or (n) something
which is screwed up. "Kludge" means to make something work, but in an
inelegant or clumsy fashion. "Bodge", however, means to adjust or
adapt something carefully to fit, perhaps in a way not originally
intended; "bodgers" were originally people who did the final fitting of
parts to machines and the like.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
30 Mar
30 Mar
4:22 p.m.
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 18:56 +0100, Pete Turnbull wrote:
On Mar 30 2005, 14:36, Jules Richardson wrote:
Interesting - I've never heard that before. All the people I've known
(until now! :) use bodge and kludge interchangeably, whilst as you say
botch is something of a completely inferior class :-)
I suppose it's more that I've always known people use kludge for any
type of addition / fix / enhancement which wasn't forseen by the
original designer - whether an elegant one or not!
cheers
J.
Back on topic, does the correct pronunciation of
kludge contain the
'd',
or is it silent? 98% of people here in the UK
seem to pronounce the
d,
but I've heard a few who don't. Mind you,
'bodge' is an equivalent
and
more commonly heard over here than kludge.
"Bodge" doesn't mean the same thing at all. You're probably thinking
of "botch", which means (v) to screw something up, or (n) something
which is screwed up. "Kludge" means to make something work, but in an
inelegant or clumsy fashion. "Bodge", however, means to adjust or
adapt something carefully to fit, perhaps in a way not originally
intended; "bodgers" were originally people who did the final fitting of
parts to machines and the like. 
4:27 p.m.
Pete Turnbull wrote:
"Bodge" doesn't mean the same thing at
all. You're probably thinking
of "botch", which means (v) to screw something up, or (n) something
which is screwed up. "Kludge" means to make something work, but in an
inelegant or clumsy fashion. "Bodge", however, means to adjust or
adapt something carefully to fit, perhaps in a way not originally
intended; "bodgers" were originally people who did the final fitting of
parts to machines and the like.
From watching JunkYard Wars, or Scrap Heap Challenge as it is called in
the UK, I thought Bodge was about the same as kludge, too.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
31 Mar
31 Mar
2:34 a.m.
On 31/03/2005, at 7:27 AM, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Pete Turnbull wrote:
My usage (remember I lived in the UK when I was young) would be that a
bodge would be a crude, inelegant, possibly temporary, fix where as a
kludge is a more elegant work around for a problem.
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies at kerberos.davies.net.au
Melbourne | "If soccer was meant to be played in the
Australia | air, the sky would be painted green"
"Bodge" doesn't mean the same thing
at all. You're probably thinking
of "botch", which means (v) to screw something up, or (n) something
which is screwed up. "Kludge" means to make something work, but in an
inelegant or clumsy fashion. "Bodge", however, means to adjust or
adapt something carefully to fit, perhaps in a way not originally
intended; "bodgers" were originally people who did the final fitting
of
parts to machines and the like.
From watching JunkYard Wars, or Scrap Heap Challenge as it is called
in the UK, I thought Bodge was about the same as kludge, too.
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