Okay, I've now given up hope that those old modems will ever be at all useful or interesting to me. So they're up for grabs, for the cost of postage. There are two BellSouth 212A's, and two similar modems by Penril. None respond to the Hayes "AT" command set, and each has a handful of pushbutton switches on the front, as per my previous post. Power supplies are all internal; they each have an ordinary 120v line cord. The consensus seems to be that they need some associated equipment to do the dialing. Because of this, I have no idea if they work or not. They are each maybe 1' x 1' x 2", but not very heavy. (That size is an estimate from memory, and might be off by a bit). I doubt they are useful in any modern setup, but they might be regarded as classics. If nobody here wants them, they return to the dumpster from which they came. My apartment now has negative space available, if you know what I mean. Similarly, I've got a Sytek 2532 Packet Communications Unit, with about half a dozen boards in it. This is a rack-mount beastie, and weighs like it, so it could be expensive to ship. Still, if you want it, or any of the boards from it, let me know. Like the modems, I have no way to test it, and no idea whether or not it works. But I'd be thrilled to get it out of the trunk of my car. :-) And maybe this is a good time to mention my "for trade" web page, containing a list of compu-junk that needs a good home. It is at this URL: http://www.cs.unc.edu/~yakowenk/classiccmp/fortrade.html Cheers, Bill.