The Kittyhawk is pretty small, and I don't know of any machine other tha <the Dauphin DTR-1 what used it. I don't think it's the smallest though. <Does anybody remember the Syquest SQ1100? Removable hard disks about th <size of a box of matches. They produced them for OEM eval, but I don't <think they ever made it to the retail channel. I have about 100 of them As someone building a smaller z280/cpm system I'm in the hunt for a IDE hard disk with a form factor 3.5" or smaller. I may be able to use PCMCIA but a forsee them as too expensive. The storage can be small as 10mb and anything over 60-80mb is gross overkill(I'll take bigger but I really dont need it). My other requirements is known good and real cheap. Allison