2 Dec
2018
2 Dec
'18
2:03 p.m.
The re-work of that Dallas nvram chip is just beautiful. It makes me
ashamed of myself. (I just chopped into the epoxy with a pocket knife,
soldered two leads, and velcroed the new batteries somewhere inside the
machine I installed it in.)
I salute you sir.
Jeff
5 Dec
5 Dec
9:53 a.m.
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote:
The re-work of that Dallas nvram chip is just
beautiful. It makes me
ashamed of myself. (I just chopped into the epoxy with a pocket knife,
soldered two leads, and velcroed the new batteries somewhere inside the
machine I installed it in.)
There is very little clearance in DECstation 5000 systems, like .1", as
per the TURBOchannel specification, between the top of the Dallas chip and
the bottom of any TURBOchannel option placed right above it (some have
components underneath, including large ICs), and I think the risk of
breaking such a non-standard wiring while shuffling option cards is not to
be ignored either. Also the design of the system box makes it very
difficult to choose a suitable location for a distant battery holder that
would not obstruct anything.
So I decided to do that properly at the cost of it taking perhaps a
little longer to rework a single chip.
NB a CR1220 cell is supposed to last for ~8 years in this application if
running on battery power all the time, which I think is good enough. A
CR2032 cell would last ~50 years, which I think is an overkill, given that
the seal is expected to fail much earlier, like after 10 years.
An encapsulated power module could instead be used such as the Renata
175-0, where space permits, which would indeed last some 50 years, being
airtight, but I haven't seen any reports of its use in this application (I
have a couple of those on DEC NVRAM boards and last time I checked they
still had the power to hold 1MiB SRAM memory contents after 25+ years).
I salute you sir.
:) So far I only made 2 of these, but more are in the pipeline (waiting
for a free weekend).
Maciej
1 p.m.
Nice work, indeed! The clearance issue is part of why I made the repair
module boards.
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk
wrote:
The re-work of that Dallas nvram chip is just
beautiful. It makes me
ashamed of myself. (I just chopped into the epoxy with a pocket knife,
soldered two leads, and velcroed the new batteries somewhere inside the
machine I installed it in.)
There is very little clearance in DECstation 5000 systems, like .1", as
per the TURBOchannel specification, between the top of the Dallas chip and
the bottom of any TURBOchannel option placed right above it (some have
components underneath, including large ICs), and I think the risk of
breaking such a non-standard wiring while shuffling option cards is not to
be ignored either. Also the design of the system box makes it very
difficult to choose a suitable location for a distant battery holder that
would not obstruct anything.
So I decided to do that properly at the cost of it taking perhaps a
little longer to rework a single chip.
NB a CR1220 cell is supposed to last for ~8 years in this application if
running on battery power all the time, which I think is good enough. A
CR2032 cell would last ~50 years, which I think is an overkill, given that
the seal is expected to fail much earlier, like after 10 years.
An encapsulated power module could instead be used such as the Renata
175-0, where space permits, which would indeed last some 50 years, being
airtight, but I haven't seen any reports of its use in this application (I
have a couple of those on DEC NVRAM boards and last time I checked they
still had the power to hold 1MiB SRAM memory contents after 25+ years).
I salute you sir.
:) So far I only made 2 of these, but more are in the pipeline (waiting
for a free weekend).
Maciej
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