7 Mar
2002
7 Mar
'02
9:57 p.m.
Thanks, Bill!
Just got home with my brand-spanking-old MVII and set about playing
with it. It's indecently clean inside, cables all in good shape, fans
all free and clean, cards well seated.
I even managed to get them all back in properly, in order, and the
cables connected right.
So let me see if I got this right, as this is the first working QBus
system I've gotten:
Boards, in order:
M7606-AF MV-II CPU (KA630-A) w/1M RAM & serial console line
M7608-BP 4M RAM card for KA630
M7609-AH 8M parity RAM " "
M7504 DEQNA ethernet
M7546 TQK50 tape controller
M9047 Grant card
M8053 DMV11 Serial controller
M3104 DHV11 8-port async serial DMA mux
2x M3107 DHQ11 " " " " "
Storage:
2x RD53-A 70M Micropolis 1325
RD54 190M Maxtor XT-2190
TK50 95M CompacTape drive
This means I would, if I had the distribution hardware for the DHQ11s,
have 25 serial interfaces? (plus console) What exactly is the DMV11?
"Synchronous communications controller" sounds like it requires a DMV11
on the other end as well.
Everything VMS I've looked at says the DEQNA is unsupported in VMS
v5.2. Is that unsupported as in "don't call
DEC/Compaq/HP", or
unsupported as in "it don't work"? Am I stuck
with NetBSD then? Does
anyone know if NBSD will mop-boot over the DEQNA? I don't have VMS
older than 6.2.
Anybody have 2 breakout boxes for the M3107, and no M3107? We could
equalize.... For that matter, if anybody needs the card, I'll just
share.
Oh yeah. It boots. VMS 5.2, but it's looking for the rest of a
cluster, and apparently a lot of its filespace was remote. Bummer.
Other than that, and the fact that I can't get it upstairs, it's a cool
"little" box.
You know you're over the edge when the lack of ethernet access in your
garage is a problem.
Doc
7 Mar
7 Mar
10:21 p.m.
Storage:
2x RD53-A 70M Micropolis 1325
If there is anything you want on these, back them up. They die with
alarming frequency.
Other than that, and the fact that I can't get it
upstairs, it's a cool
"little" box.
Nonsense, just pull everything out of the chassis, striping it as far down
as possible, then lug the chassis and the parts upstairs seperatly. That's
how I got the BA123 I'm using for my PDP-11/73 up here.
You know you're over the edge when the lack of
ethernet access in your
garage is a problem.
Just go outside the house to run it :^)
Zane
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8 Mar
8 Mar
1:43 a.m.
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:21:46AM -0800, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Nonsense, just pull everything out of the chassis,
striping it as far down
as possible, then lug the chassis and the parts upstairs seperatly.
Especially
the PSU. It is easy to remove and weights a lot.
Take this opportunity to remove the dust puppys. Once I powered
an old MVII on without doing this. The fan in the PSU was near to
death and suddenly there came smoke out of the machine. Fortunately
it was only smoke from the dust, not the magic smoke. :-)
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3:44 a.m.
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Zane H. Healy wrote:
I have a bunch of them. But I also heard one of the shops here has a
pile of Maxtors (yes, Jonathan, if they do I'll share) Most likely
scenario is netbooting and using the RD54 for swap.
"it was a joke, son..." You obviously haven't seen my upstairs
office. I _will_ have to rotate something out.
Doc
Storage:
2x RD53-A 70M Micropolis 1325
If there is anything you want on these, back them up. They die with
alarming frequency. Other than
that, and the fact that I can't get it upstairs, it's a cool
"little" box.
Nonsense, just pull everything out of the chassis, striping it as far down
as possible, then lug the chassis and the parts upstairs seperatly. That's
how I got the BA123 I'm using for my PDP-11/73 up here. 
4:12 a.m.
Doc wrote:
"it was a joke, son..." You obviously
haven't seen my upstairs
office. I _will_ have to rotate something out.
Doc
I can see it now ** Wanted "House with a two computer garage and
separate
living area on the side'
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5:55 a.m.
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 08:12:29AM -0700, Ben Franchuk wrote:
I can see it now ** Wanted "House with a two
computer garage and
separate
living area on the side'
I bought my house *because* it had a finished-out (carpet and paneling)
2-car garage.
Bill
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Austin, TX
9 a.m.
So it's not really a garage anymore? I've
never seen a carpeted garage,
before.
I like the garage my wifes parents have, it's got a raised floor! The
downside being it doesn't have floor tiles that you can pull up like in a
computer room so admitadly the usefulness of that raised floor is
questionable.
Zane
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9:19 a.m.
New subject: OT: Carpeted Garages (was: MicroVAX-II questions)
Quothe Chad Fernandez, from writings of Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:50:09PM -0500:
So it's not really a garage anymore? I've
never seen a carpeted garage,
before.
Carpeted garages are, I understand, very useful for containing oil
leaks (they just need to be changed every so often when they reach the
saturation point) and protecting the appearance of the concrete
underneath... of course, they're possibly not as good for computer
collections if the carpet is made of those materials that promote
electrostatic discharge or make parts dropped on them difficult to
find. :-)
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11:25 a.m.
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:50:09PM -0500, Chad Fernandez wrote:
So it's not really a garage anymore? I've
never seen a carpeted garage,
before.
Its a garage, with garage doors, it just has carpet and wood paneling.
Inside, it looks more like a den.
Bill
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11:52 a.m.
Bill Bradford wrote:
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:50:09PM -0500, Chad Fernandez wrote:
So where do you park the car ... in the Den?
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So it's not really a garage anymore?
I've never seen a carpeted garage,
before.
Its a garage, with garage doors, it just has carpet and wood paneling.
Inside, it looks more like a den.
3:45 p.m.
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 03:52:53PM -0700, Ben Franchuk wrote:
So where do you park the car ... in the Den?
In the huge driveway.
http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/house
Bill
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Austin, TX
5:16 a.m.
I have the original "Micro System Site Managenment Guide" for my PDP,
and the hard drive caused truoble a few times. They replaced and
reformatted it a few times it looks like.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
"Zane H. Healy" wrote:
Storage:
2x RD53-A 70M Micropolis 1325
If there is anything you want on these, back them up. They die with
alarming frequency.
4:18 a.m.
Err, Jerome's offlist email just reminded me that I left out 2 major
points.
First, I totally spaced the M7555 RQDX3 controller. Yes, there is
one. It fell through the 2:30am email crack.
Second, I'd kind of like to have an RX50 diskette drive for the thing,
just because. I suppose I'd need cables too.
Doc
9:09 a.m.
Doc wrote:
Err, Jerome's offlist email just reminded me that
I left out 2 major
points.
First, I totally spaced the M7555 RQDX3 controller. Yes, there is
one. It fell through the 2:30am email crack.
Second, I'd kind of like to have an RX50 diskette drive for the thing,
just because. I suppose I'd need cables too.
Jerome Fine replies:
Seems like we have more to trade than just the DHQ11 - I can
put an RX50 into the pot as well - do you want two of them
just in case? I have more than I know what to do with - the
second one will not have a sled, but then you can use the sled
from the first one when it goes bad (an RX50 almost
never
does) or the RD53 when it goes (which should be shortly by
all accounts I have heard - unless you are very lucky). I will
also look for a cable, but for the BA123 box, you will need a
long cable if you don't put the RX50 at the top of the stack
of 4 drive bays.
Note that I am answering this e-mail from the "older" system
(as I run in parallel for a while - plus I really will not switch
until I have all my subscriptions to lists confirmed AND working).
So if you answered to the "newer" system, I will not see the
reply for another 24 hours. Probably answer to both for
now if not too inconvenient (jhfinepw4z(a)compsys.to).
I was going to ask which OS you will use until I remembered
you have a VAX, not a PDP-11.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
5:09 a.m.
Doc Shipley wrote:
Oh yeah. It boots. VMS 5.2, but it's looking
for the rest of a
cluster, and apparently a lot of its filespace was remote. Bummer.
Other than that, and the fact that I can't get it upstairs, it's a cool
"little" box.
Why can't you get it upstairs? What case is it in? I don't mean to
brag..... well Ok, I'm bragging a bit..... I carried my BA213 cased
Microvax 3400 up to my 3rd floor apartment by myself, and I'm not
exactly built like a tank, either. It didn't have the base/wheels on
it, but those are plastic anyway.
You know you're over the edge when the lack of ethernet access in your
garage is a problem.
:-)
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
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