Good question, all I really see are PDP-11 schematics, and peripherial schematics, actually I guess there are a couple VAX-11/785 ones as well. I think he's talking about these: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rove… An interesting stack. I'd be tempted but there are other things I need more, such as a replacement for my dying VMS server (PWS 433au). Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 09:54:50PM -0400, Bob Lafleur wrote: . . . Check the motherboard battery -ethan -- Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 05-Apr-2004 02:01 Z South Pole Station PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -37.5 F (-38.6 C) Windchill -104.7 F (-76 C) APO AP 96598 Wind 25.1 kts Grid 347 Barometer 680.2 mb (10619. ft) Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, Bob Lafleur wrote: Sounds like the NVRAM battery has delivered it's last watt to the MoBo... Same thing happened on my old 7100/80. In the middle of a recording session. At 3-goddam-AM.... Cheerz John

A dead PRAM battery won't cause a IIci to stop booting up (although a dead PRAM battery is one of the causes of a black screen for many Quadras and LCs). If you've already replaced the power supply with a known good one, then the motherboard is shot (I've had this happen to a IIci myself, and there's not a whole lot I know of to fix it -- I think it's a problem with one of the caps, but darned if I can tell you which one to test and replace). One other cause of a dead IIci is losing the jumper on J1 (I think), which effectively lobotomizes the unit. However, this is an easy way of turning an otherwise idle IIci into an overgrown hard disk enclosure, and I have a IIci which is doing nothing at the moment acting as power and SCSI input to my old 4.3GB drive while I copy files off of it. Happily, the unit is restored to full function by putting the jumper back on, of course. If you have a cache card in it, try pulling it, although I've never heard of a dead cache card causing a totally unconscious unit (usually a wonky cache card just causes inexplicable errors once the machine gets going). I think you said you'd already tried pulling all the cards, memory, etc., though. Any possible SCSI termination issues on this unit? -- ---------------------------------- personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Floodgap Systems Ltd * So. Calif., USA * ckaiser(a)floodgap.com -- The first duty of a revolutionary is to get away with it. -- Abbie Hoffman -

Build a Mac IIci a fire, and it's warm for the night. Set a Mac IIci on fire, and it's warm for the rest of it's life :) --jc Bob Lafleur wrote:

I used to work in a Mac repair center. Replace the battery with one you know is good. Take the origional battery out and let the machine sit without a battery for at least 10 minutes. If this fails, let the machine sit with no battery (and not plugged in) for 24 hours. I do believe Apple got sued over this issue, as many repair centers (not ours) were replacing motherboards and charging customers hundreds of dollars when all they needed was a six dollar battery! take care, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Pemberton" <philpem(a)dsl.pipex.comTo: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.orgSent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Mac Iici won't fire up about a an a 6GB, 2-slice, "You fool! Now we may never know if ants can be trained to sort tiny screws in space." -------------------------------------------------------------- Website - http://www.retrobbs.org Tradewars - telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org BBS - telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323 IRC - irc.retrobbs.org #main WIKI - http://www.tpoh.org/cgi-bin/tpoh-wiki