11 Jun
2004
11 Jun
'04
1:34 a.m.
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:15:48 -0400
>>>> "paul" == Paul Koning
<pkoning(a)equallogic.com> writes:
paul>>>>>> "Fred" == Fred Cisin <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
writes:
paul>
paul> Fred> So Commodore thought they could be successful at defying
paul> Fred> convention by giving the later model a lower model number
paul>
paul> Fred> The Ford model A came after the model T
paul>
paul> And the 11/730 came after the 11/750 which came after the 11/780.
paul> The 11/05 came after the 11/20, and the 11/04 came later than that...
paul>
paul> paul
Not to forget the Sun SPARCstation 5, which came after the 10 and had the
new style (gray/violet opposed to gray only) housing...
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11 Jun
11 Jun
2 a.m.
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 10:34, Arno Kletzander wrote:
Not to forget the Sun SPARCstation 5, which came after
the 10 and had the
new style (gray/violet opposed to gray only) housing...
Weren't both 10's and 20's actually SparcStation 3's? Damn confusing...
Good ol' marketing...
cheers
Jules
3:23 a.m.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:00:37AM +0000, Jules Richardson wrote:
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 10:34, Arno Kletzander wrote:
SPARC 4s and SPARC5s were sun4ms with various amounts of Sbus slots
IIRC, SPARC 20s and SPARC 10s are sun4ds.
I wish I had some DIMMs for SPARC 10s... my main machine at home is a
SPARC 5 w/256MB of 32MB DIMMs, but I have a SPARC 10 w/0MB of DRAM
sitting in a corner.
When I get home, I will own zero machines that can run Solaris X.
I suppose, I'll have to look for a SPARC machine better than an U1/170.
If anyone wants to "lose" a 64-bit SPARC machine next Feb, I'll probably
want to upgrade.
-ethan
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Not to forget the Sun SPARCstation 5, which came
after the 10 and had the
new style (gray/violet opposed to gray only) housing...
Weren't both 10's and 20's actually SparcStation 3's? Damn confusing...
5:59 p.m.
IIRC, SPARC 20s and SPARC 10s are sun4ds.
Sorry, they're still sun4ms. (I think sun4d postdates the sun4u, which
would imply that sun4ds are 64-bit machines...which the 20 and 10
definitely aren't; I have some and know them.)
When I get home, I will own zero machines that can run
Solaris X.
As I have no interest in running Solaris of any stripe, I will
cheerfully take all those old klunkers of SPARCs off your hands... :-)
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7:49 p.m.
On Friday 11 June 2004 21:59, der Mouse wrote:
Geeze, of all people to get something about SPARC wrong, I wouldn't think
you'd be calling Sun4d 64bit!
Sun4d (as in the SS1000(E) and SC2000(E)) uses 32bit SuperSparc-I/II
modules, although it does have more than 32bit of address space. You can
use up to 5 GB of ram in a maxed-out SC2000(E). That's a *lot* of 32MB
SIMMs. It's capable of using any MBUS-slot module that has an MXCC (aka
M-bus, XD-bus cache controller), which is essentially any SuperSparc that
has L2 cache.
The only reason I (do/would) ever run Solaris on a machine is to upgrade
firmware to be able to use a different OS with the machine, or to reverse
engineer a driver. :)
Pat
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IIRC, SPARC
20s and SPARC 10s are sun4ds.
Sorry, they're still sun4ms. (I think sun4d postdates the sun4u, which
would imply that sun4ds are 64-bit machines...which the 20 and 10
definitely aren't; I have some and know them.) When I get
home, I will own zero machines that can run Solaris X.
As I have no interest in running Solaris of any stripe, I will
cheerfully take all those old klunkers of SPARCs off your hands... :-)
8:09 p.m.
IIRC, SPARC 20s and SPARC 10s are sun4ds.
Sorry, they're still sun4ms. (I think sun4d postdates the sun4u,
which would imply that sun4ds are 64-bit machines...which the 20 and
10 definitely aren't; I have some and know them.) When I get home, I will own zero machines that can run
Solaris X.
As I have no interest in running Solaris of any stripe, I will
cheerfully take all those old klunkers of SPARCs off your hands... :-)
8:19 p.m.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:49:17PM -0500, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
The only reason I (do/would) ever run Solaris on a
machine is to upgrade
firmware to be able to use a different OS with the machine, or to reverse
engineer a driver. :)
Solaris used to make me a lot of money. These days, though, Linux jobs are
easier to find.
-ethan
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7:42 p.m.
On Friday 11 June 2004 07:23, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:00:37AM +0000, Jules
Richardson wrote:
No, they were Sun4m's with real MBUS slots, the 4's/5's didn't have the
MBUS slots. Sun4d was the SparcServer 1000(E) and SparcCenter 2000(E)
(And possibly the Cray CS6400 but I'm not terribly familar with that as I
don't own one ;)
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 10:34, Arno Kletzander
wrote:
SPARC 4s and SPARC5s were sun4ms with various amounts of Sbus slots
IIRC, SPARC 20s and SPARC 10s are sun4ds. Not to forget the Sun SPARCstation 5, which came
after the 10 and
had the new style (gray/violet opposed to gray only) housing...
Weren't both 10's and 20's actually SparcStation 3's? Damn
confusing... I wish I had some DIMMs for SPARC 10s... my main
machine at home is a
SPARC 5 w/256MB of 32MB DIMMs, but I have a SPARC 10 w/0MB of DRAM
sitting in a corner.
Memory is dirt cheap on ebay, at least compared to the same amount of PC100
or DDR memory. I've got a large supply of 16MB DIMMs if you need them.
When I get home, I will own zero machines that can run
Solaris X.
Why would you want to run that OS? ; )
I suppose, I'll have to look for a SPARC machine
better than an U1/170.
If anyone wants to "lose" a 64-bit SPARC machine next Feb, I'll probably
want to upgrade.
Ultra 5's and 10's are a dime a dozen, at least for the <400MHz variety,
and should run Solaris X just fine. Well, they'll run as "fine" as they
run anything else...
Pat
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7:37 a.m.
On Friday 11 June 2004 06:00, Jules Richardson wrote:
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 10:34, Arno Kletzander wrote:
Sparcstation 3????
Pat
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Not to forget the Sun SPARCstation 5, which came
after the 10 and
had the new style (gray/violet opposed to gray only) housing...
Weren't both 10's and 20's actually SparcStation 3's? Damn
confusing...
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