29 Oct
2018
29 Oct
'18
6:11 a.m.
First up is the addition of Crescent Software's entire product line. The
company produced a number of good library suites in the late 80s and early
90's. Note these are all DOS products - the Windows product line was sold
in the early 90's.
http://annex.retroarchive.org/crescent/index.html
When the documentation arrives, I'll be paying the IA to get it all
scanned. It's a lot cheaper than me buying a Scribe scanner or building a
DIY version. :)
Next up is a HUGE CD-ROM and FTP site archive I've been working on.
http://www.retroarchive.org/cdrom/index.html
What I've done here is pull CD-ROMs from the Internet Archive and make
them easily browseable. I've also extracted the contents of each of the
zip, etc. files and created index files for those as well. The goal was
to make the material more easily accessible for both us meat bags and
search spider bots.
This is going to be a long term project that will end when I've either
exhausted the available CD-ROMs on the IA, or I die, whichever comes
first. ;)
There's a number of holes in the sets that are on the IA - if you've got a
disc that would fill a hole, please consider making an ISO of the disc and
upload that along with a photo of the disc to the IA and then let me know
so I can get it processed.
I'm also looking to acquire a manual set for QuickBASIC 4.5 and the
Microsoft Professional Development System 7.1. If you have either one,
please contact me!
Thanks!
g.
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29 Oct
29 Oct
10:03 a.m.
Next up is a HUGE CD-ROM and FTP site archive I've
been working on.
http://www.retroarchive.org/cdrom/index.html
What I've done here is pull CD-ROMs from the Internet Archive and make
them easily browseable. I've also extracted the contents of each of
the
zip, etc. files and created index files for those as well. The goal
was
to make the material more easily accessible for both us meat bags and
search spider bots.
Very nice! Thank you for doing this!
-Ali
10:26 a.m.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Ali wrote:
You're welcome. It's been a fun project. It does suck up space fast
though. Each CD unpacks to about between 1.2G and 1.7GB of data. :)
g.
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http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
Next up is a HUGE CD-ROM and FTP site archive
I've been working on.
http://www.retroarchive.org/cdrom/index.html
What I've done here is pull CD-ROMs from the Internet Archive and make
them easily browseable. I've also extracted the contents of each of
the
zip, etc. files and created index files for those as well. The goal
was
to make the material more easily accessible for both us meat bags and
search spider bots.
Very nice! Thank you for doing this!
10:13 a.m.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 06:11:14AM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote:
First up is the addition of Crescent Software's
entire product line.
The company produced a number of good library suites in the late 80s
and early 90's. Note these are all DOS products - the Windows
product line was sold in the early 90's.
[...]
Wow. So many goodies.
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** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... **
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10:34 a.m.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Tomasz Rola wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 06:11:14AM -0700, geneb via
cctalk wrote:
There's more coming too. Pics of original install media, some corporate
"swag", and a short historical write-up by Ethan Winer and maybe some
others.
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ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
First up is the addition of Crescent
Software's entire product line.
The company produced a number of good library suites in the late 80s
and early 90's. Note these are all DOS products - the Windows
product line was sold in the early 90's.
[...]
Wow. So many goodies. 
12:43 p.m.
On 10/29/18 6:11 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote:
This is going to be a long term project that will end
when I've either exhausted the available CD-ROMs on the IA, or I
die, whichever comes first. ;)
Even a full list of what CDs Jason has there w/o indexing would be helpful.
Trying to figure out what is there is a nightmare.
For a while, I had about 400gb of cd images on bitsavers until we ran out of disk space.
I probably have a few hundred more gb I've read since then. I've slowly been
trying to
find a full set of physical disks from Walnut Creek for CHM's archive.
12:54 p.m.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 10/29/18 6:11 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote:
All the shareware CDs are in a collection called "cdbbsarchive".
https://archive.org/details/cdbbsarchive
I'm going for all the low-hanging fruit first - sets of CDs from the likes
of Nightowl, PsL, etc. Then I'll move on to the singles. It's still a
huge job though. :) I've got a 5TB NAS that I'm storing these on, so I'm
in no danger of running out of space. :)
This is going to be a long term project that will
end when I've either exhausted the available CD-ROMs on the IA, or I
die, whichever comes first. ;)
Even a full list of what CDs Jason has there w/o indexing would be helpful.
Trying to figure out what is there is a nightmare.
For a while, I had about 400gb of cd images on
bitsavers until we ran out of disk space.
I probably have a few hundred more gb I've read since then. I've slowly been
trying to
find a full set of physical disks from Walnut Creek for CHM's archive.
Here's the Walnut Creek collection:
https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom
I'm pretty sure these came straight from the guy that owned Walnut Creek.
g.
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Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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1:35 p.m.
Gee, I didn't know you collected old CD archives.
I've got some WC CDs here:
"Internet USENET source code." CDs 1,2,3
C/C++ Users Group Library August 1997
"Toolkit for Linus"-2 CD set.
-------------------
Developer Source Vols. 4-10 (1995-1998); archives of source code
published in magazine form, as well as a few books. Put out by I-Mode,
Inc. Some of the later ones are still in shrink wrap--I just got too
overloaded with the information. I may have volumes 1-3, but I'm not sure.
Let me know and I'll some or all of them in your book box (they qualify
as "media mail", right?
I probably have a ton of other goodies, since I just started tossing CDs
in a big box.
--Chuck
1:49 p.m.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Gee, I didn't know you collected old CD archives.
I've got some WC CDs here:
"Internet USENET source code." CDs 1,2,3
C/C++ Users Group Library August 1997
"Toolkit for Linus"-2 CD set.
-------------------
Developer Source Vols. 4-10 (1995-1998); archives of source code
published in magazine form, as well as a few books. Put out by I-Mode,
Inc. Some of the later ones are still in shrink wrap--I just got too
overloaded with the information. I may have volumes 1-3, but I'm not sure.
Let me know and I'll some or all of them in your book box (they qualify
as "media mail", right?
That's my understanding, yes.
I probably have a ton of other goodies, since I just
started tossing CDs
in a big box.
That works for me, thanks!
g.
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http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
1:46 p.m.
On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
Here's the Walnut Creek collection:
https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom
It sure would be nice if you could get a comma separated list of metadata instead of
a bunch of pretty pictures
THAT is where IA is a colossal FAIL
1:53 p.m.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Al Kossow wrote:
On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
You realize that you can click a button and get
a text list of those
"pretty pictures", right? Click the "Show Details" checkbox and
you'll
get a block of text that describes each one.
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
Here's the Walnut Creek collection:
https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom
It sure would be nice if you could get a comma separated list of metadata instead of
a bunch of pretty pictures
THAT is where IA is a colossal FAIL 
31 Oct
31 Oct
3:27 a.m.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:53:18PM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Al Kossow wrote:
It's very time consuming to browse through that though.
It would be nice if you could make the service more
accessible. A csv export of a table including metadata for
each entry shouldn't be so hard. It would probably save you
some bandwith as well.
/P
On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
You realize that you can click a button and get
a text list of those
"pretty pictures", right? Click the "Show Details" checkbox and
you'll get a block of text that describes each one.
Here's the Walnut Creek collection:
https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom
It sure would be nice if you could get a comma separated list of metadata instead of
a bunch of pretty pictures
THAT is where IA is a colossal FAIL
5:01 a.m.
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:53:18PM -0700, geneb via
cctalk wrote:
Take it up with the Internet Archive. Not my circus, not my monkey.
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Al Kossow wrote:
It's very time consuming to browse through that though.
It would be nice if you could make the service more
accessible. A csv export of a table including metadata for
each entry shouldn't be so hard. It would probably save you
some bandwith as well.
On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
You realize that you can click a button and
get a text list of those
"pretty pictures", right? Click the "Show Details" checkbox and
you'll get a block of text that describes each one.
Here's the Walnut Creek collection:
https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom
It sure would be nice if you could get a comma separated list of metadata instead of
a bunch of pretty pictures
THAT is where IA is a colossal FAIL 
6:04 a.m.
5:20 a.m.
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 05:01:18AM -0700, geneb via
cctalk wrote:
No worries, I'm good at ducking. ;)
g.
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Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
Take it up with the Internet Archive. Not my circus, not my monkey.
I'm sorry for barking up the wrong tree :) I should know better than
to shoot at the messenger.
29 Oct
29 Oct
2:06 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
What's Microsoft's policy on old MSDN CDs? I've got a ton of them
starting somewhere around 93-94 and extended through the XP years.
Do I respect MS's IP and send them to the crusher?
--Chuck
2:09 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
Not required, I think.
There are activation codes for SOME of the software on the CDs, but not most of them. Many
will be trial versions or limited in some fashion. All of this old software is no longer
under MS support, and much of it can be downloaded from MS or other sites for free. So my
take on it is no need to kill them!
Cindy
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What's Microsoft's policy on old MSDN CDs? I've got a ton of them
starting somewhere around 93-94 and extended through the XP years.
Do I respect MS's IP and send them to the crusher?
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2:18 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On Oct 29, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Electronics Plus via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Not required, I think.
There are activation codes for SOME of the software on the CDs, but not most of them.
Many will be trial versions or limited in some fashion.
I still have a few MSDN disks containing national language versions of Win95 -- I've
run the Basque version for grins on occasion. (One wonders how they justified the expense
of creating that one...) It seems to be a full version, not limited in time or features
as far as I could tell.
paul
2:23 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On 10/29/18 2:09 PM, Electronics Plus wrote:
Not required, I think. There are activation codes for
SOME of the
software on the CDs, but not most of them. Many will be trial
versions or limited in some fashion. All of this old software is no
longer under MS support, and much of it can be downloaded from MS or
other sites for free. So my take on it is no need to kill them!
That would surprise me a bit; I'm not aware of any OS software being
"trial veriosn" type. I think the shrink-wrap agreement calls for being
able to use it on up to 10 systems. The copies of, XP, for example are
fully licensed working versions.
Anyone know for sure?
--Chuck
2:31 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
That would surprise me a bit; I'm not aware of any
OS software being
"trial veriosn" type. I think the shrink-wrap agreement calls for being
able to use it on up to 10 systems. The copies of, XP, for example are
fully licensed working versions.
Anyone know for sure?
With no key, it's basically useless and there's other sources out there
(IA) for media.
I'd also like to put out a call for any of the TechNet CDs, especially
those prior to the release of Windows 95.
tnx.
g.
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ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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2:29 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
What's Microsoft's policy on old MSDN CDs?
I've got a ton of them
starting somewhere around 93-94 and extended through the XP years.
Do I respect MS's IP and send them to the crusher?
There's a ton of them on the IA already. I would /love/ to get the early
ones. My collection begins at 1997 so I would *eagerly* take anything
previous to that.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
31 Oct
31 Oct
5:09 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
What's Microsoft's policy on old MSDN CDs?
I've got a ton of them
starting somewhere around 93-94 and extended through the XP years.
Do I respect MS's IP and send them to the crusher?
On a CASUAL basis, they wouldn't really care about any of the discontinued
products.
But, if you were to ask for a FORMAL policy statement, then they would
have to consult their legal department, and assert their IP rights.
(There is no legal recognition of any concept of "abandonware")
Because of his museum activities, Paul Allen would have been a good one
to get a written INFORMAL opinion from, because he might have understood
the concepts.
Since there is nothing on them that would identify you, there are a number
of people who would gladly help you to properly dispose of them.
5:18 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
But, if you were to ask for a FORMAL policy statement,
then they would have
to consult their legal department, and assert their IP rights.
(There is no legal recognition of any concept of "abandonware")
The default answer would be "no". Any other answer requires work and
would not be pursued.
Since there is nothing on them that would identify
you, there are a number of
people who would gladly help you to properly dispose of them.
Only if you mean "Upload to the Internet Archive" when you write
"dispose". ;)
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
6:12 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
> But, if you were to ask for a FORMAL policy
statement, then they would have
> to consult their legal department, and assert their IP rights.
> (There is no legal recognition of any concept of "abandonware")
>
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, geneb wrote:
The default answer would be "no". Any other
answer requires work and would
not be pursued.
EXACTLY.
Since there is
nothing on them that would identify you, there are a number
of people who would gladly help you to properly dispose of them.
Only if you mean "Upload to the Internet Archive" when you write
"dispose".
;)
5:24 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On 10/31/18 5:09 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Since there is nothing on them that would identify
you, there are a
number of people who would gladly help you to properly dispose of them.
I wonder how many MSDN subscribers held onto the betas and release
candidates of various products; e.g., CDs labeled "Code Name Whistler"
I haven't thrown away a single CD since 1994.
--Chuck
5:37 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On 10/31/2018 5:24 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 10/31/18 5:09 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
I'm a packrat.? Have all I ever got, plus some that were gifted to me
by
tidy bugs.
I've had three MSDN subscriptions for work those are the source of my
keyed stuff.? Some of the gifted ones are probably useless
because they require keys I didn't get.
thanks
Jim
Since there is nothing on them that would
identify you, there are a
number of people who would gladly help you to properly dispose of them.
I wonder
how many MSDN subscribers held onto the betas and release
candidates of various products; e.g., CDs labeled "Code Name Whistler"
I haven't thrown away a single CD since 1994.
--Chuck 
5:40 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On 10/31/18 8:24 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 10/31/18 5:09 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
My previous employer was in MSDNAA.? We got rid of
all out of date CDs and when they went to downloading
we had no CDs left.? The rules require that the CDs be
protected when in out possession and be destroyed
when expired or replaced.
bill
Since there is nothing on them that would
identify you, there are a
number of people who would gladly help you to properly dispose of them.
I wonder
how many MSDN subscribers held onto the betas and release
candidates of various products; e.g., CDs labeled "Code Name Whistler"
I haven't thrown away a single CD since 1994.
5:55 p.m.
New subject: MSDN CD disposition
On 10/31/18 5:40 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
My previous employer was in MSDNAA.? We got rid of
all out of date CDs and when they went to downloading
we had no CDs left.? The rules require that the CDs be
protected when in out possession and be destroyed
when expired or replaced.
So, will the MS cops come pounding on my door demanding that I get rid
of old betas of Chicago?
--Chuck
29 Oct
29 Oct
2:20 p.m.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:46:50PM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
If you are looking for machine-parsable metadata, have a look at the RSS feed.
Here's the Walnut Creek collection:
https://archive.org/details/walnutcreekcdrom
It sure would be nice if you could get
a comma separated list of metadata
instead of a bunch of pretty pictures 
31 Oct
31 Oct
6:13 a.m.
Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> writes:
On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
It sure would be nice if you could get a comma separated list of
metadata instead of a bunch of pretty pictures
It's fairly well hidden, but you can indeed do that:
https://archive.org/advancedsearch.php?q=collection%3Awalnutcreekcdrom&…
There's some documentation here: <https://archive.org/help/json.php>.
The "advanced search" form is handy for setting up queries like the above.
The Python internetarchive module comes with a command-line tool "ia"
which can drive much of archive.org's interface programmatically; I use
it for searching and batch uploads/downloads rather than the web
interface.
Cheers,
--
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3 Nov
3 Nov
10:07 a.m.
On 10/31/18 6:13 AM, Adam Sampson via cctalk wrote:
Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
writes:
Most of the entries have no date metadata, so here is a sorted list extracting the dates
from the identifier field.
At least you can get an rough idea of what is there, and where there are duplicates.
?????? ADA_-_The_International_Language_for_Software_Engineers_Walnut_Creek_February
?????? ADA_-_The_International_Language_for_Software_Engineers_Walnut_Creek_June_199
?????? ADA_-_The_International_Language_for_Software_Engineers_Walnut_Creek_March_19
?????? ADA_-_The_International_Language_for_Software_Engineers_Walnut_Creek_November
?????? ADA_-_The_International_Language_for_Software_Engineers_Walnut_Creek_Septembe
?????? Bootable_Slackware_4.0_2
?????? Garbo
?????? LibrisBritannia
?????? MS-DOS_Archives_Volume_One_Walnut_Creek
198812 NOAA_Aeronautical_Data_Sampler_CD-ROM_Next_Generation_Cartography_December_1988
1992 Desktop_Library_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_1992
199201 X11R5_GNU_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_January_1992
199203 CDROM_March92
199203 Source_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_March_1992
199203 Source_Code_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_March_1992
199204 MS_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_1992
199205 OS2_Archive_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_May_1992
199206 SIMTEL_0692
199207 Cica_July92
199208 GIFs_Galore_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_August_1992
199208 GifsGalore_Aug92
199209 Simtel20_Sept92
199211 CICA_MS_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_November_1992
199211 Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_November_1992
199212 cdrom-simtel20msdosarchivedecember1992walnutcr
199212 simtel1292_SIMTEL_1292_Walnut_Creek
199212 X11R5_GNU_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_December_1992
199303 Libris_Britannia_Walnut_Creek_March_1993
199306 Aminet_CD-ROM_for_the_Commodore_Amiga_Computer_Walnut_Creek_June_1993
199306 Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_June_1993
199306 La_Coleccion_Walnut_Creek_Junio_1993
199308 cdrom-cicamicrosoftwindows0893
199310 GIFs_Galore_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_October_1993
199310 Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_October_1993
199312 CICA_MS_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_December_1993
199312 CICA_Shareware_for_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_December_1993
199312 GEMini_Atari_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_December_1993
199401 C_Users_Group_Library_Walnut_Creek_January_1994
199401 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_2.0_Walnut_Creek_January_1994
199402 Aminet_CD-ROM_For_the_Commodore_Amiga_Computer_Walnut_Creek_February_1994
199402 Clip-Art_Cornucopeia_CD-ROM_February_1994
199402 Fractal_Frenzy_Walnut_Creek_Japanese_February_1994
199402 Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_February_1994
199403 ADA_The_International_Language_for_Software_Engineers_Walnut_Creek_March_1994
199403 Aminet_CD-ROM_For_the_Commodore_Amiga_Walnut_Creek_March_1994
199403 Source_Code_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_March_1994
199403 Tax_Info_1993_Walnut_Creek_March_1994
199404 CICA_Shareware_for_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_1994
199405 Sentimental_Wings_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_May_1994
199405 Sys_V_r4_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_May_1994
199406 4.4_BSD_Lite_Export_Walnut_Creek_June_1994
199407 ADA_The_International_Language_for_Software_Engineers_Walnut_Creek_July_1994
199407 Kirks_Comm_Disc_Walnut_Creek_July_1994
199407 Visions_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_July_1994
199407 X11R6_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_July_1994
199408 C_Users_Group_Library_Walnut_Creek_August_1994
199408 CDROM_of_CDROMs_Walnut_Creek_August_1994
199408 Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_August_1994
199408 Toolkit_for_Linux_Walnut_Creek_August_1994
199409 CICA_Shareware_for_Windows_Walnut_Creek_September_1994
199409 Simtel_MSDOS_1994-09
199409 Welcome_to_Africa_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_September_1994
199411 cdrom-1994-11-walnutcreek-cpm
199411 CPM_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_November_1994
199411 DOOM_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_November_1994
199411 La_Coleccion_Walnut_Creek_Noviembre_1994
199411 Plug_and_Play_Linux_Walnut_Creek_November_1994
199411 Ready_to_Run_Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_November_1994
1995 cdrom-x11r610395
199501 Music_Workshop_Walnut_Creek_January_1995
199501 Simtel_MSDOS_Walnut_Creek_CD-ROM_January_1995
199501 Walnut_Creek_Sampler_44_CDROMs_to_Try_Walnut_Creek_January_1995
199502 CICA_Ultimate_Collection_of_Shareware_for_Windows_Walnut_Creek_February_1995
199503 Hobbes_OS2_Archived_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_March_1995
199503 Slackware_Ready_to_Run_Linux_Walnut_Creek_March_1995
199504 Best_of_Walnut_Creek_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_1995
199504 Clips_for_QuickTime_Walnut_Creek_April_1995
199504 Giga_Games_2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_1995
199504 Raytrace_The_Official_POV-RAY_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_1995
199504 X11R6_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_1995
199505 Simtel_MSDOS_1995-05
199505 Space_Shuttle_Encyclopedia_Walnut_Creek_May_1995
199506 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_2.0.5_Walnut_Creek_June_1995
199507 Power_DOS_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_July_1995
199507 Slackware_Linux_2.3_Walnut_Creek_July_1995
199507 TeX_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_July_1995
199508 CICA_Ultimate_Collection_of_Shareware_for_Windows_Walnut_Creek_August_1995
199508 Fractal_Frenzy_Volume_II_Walnut_Creek_August_1995
199509 CICA_Shareware_for_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_September_1995_Japanese
199509 NewT_for_Windows_NT_Walnut_Creek_September_1995
199510 Slackware_Linux_3.0_Walnut_Creek_October_1995
199510 X11R6_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_October_1995
199512 Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_December_1995
1996 Digital_Stamp_Album_Walnut_Creek_1996
1996 NASA_Engineering_Source_Code_Aeronautics_Walnut_Creek_1996
1996 NASA_Engineering_Source_Code_AI_and_Tools_Walnut_Creek_1996
1996 NASA_Engineering_Source_Code_Flow_and_Structure_Walnut_Creek_1996
1996 NASA_Engineering_Source_Code_Modeling_Walnut_Creek_1996
1996 Spider_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_1996
199601 Music_Workshop_Second_Edition_Walnut_Creek_January_1996
199602 Best_of_Walnut_Creek_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_February_1996
199602 NewT_for_Windows_NT_Walnut_Creek_February_1996
199603 CICA_Ultimate_Collection_of_Shareware_for_Windows_Walnut_Creek_March_1996
199603 FreeBSD_2.2_Snapshot_Walnut_Creek_March_23_1996
199603 La_Coleccion_Walnut_Creek_March_1996
199604 Game_Patches_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_1996
199604 Internet_Usenet_Source_Code_Volume_1_Walnut_Creek_1985-1990_April_1996
199604 Internet_Usenet_Source_Code_Volume_1_Walnut_Creek_April_1996
199605 BSD_Docs_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_May_1996
199606 Hobbes_OS2_Archived_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_June_1996
199606 Hobbes_OS2_Archived_Walnut_Creek_June_1996
199606 Simtel_MSDOS_1996-06
199607 CICA_Ultimate_Collection_of_Shareware_for_Windows_Walnut_Creek_July_1996_Ge
199607 CICA_Ultimate_Collection_of_Shareware_for_Windows_Walnut_Creek_Luglio_1996_
199607 Turbo_User_Group_Source_Code_Collection_Volume_2_Volume_2_July_1996
199608 CICA_Ultimate_Collection_of_Shareware_for_Windows_Walnut_Creek_August_1996
199608 Slackware_Linux_96_Walnut_Creek_August_1996
199609 Antennas_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_September_1996
199609 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_2.1.5_Walnut_Creek_September_1996_Japanese
199609 Simtel_MSDOS_1996-09
199611 Hobbes_OS2_Archived_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_November_1996
199612 CICA_NT_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_December_1996
199702 cdrom-cicawindows1199702
199702 cdrom-cicawindows2119702
199702 cdrom-cicawindowscollection199702-1
199702 cdrom-cicawindowscollection199702-2
199702 CICA_Ultimate_Collection_of_Shareware_for_Windows_Walnut_Creek_February_1997
199703 Project_Gutenberg_Walnut_Creek_CD-ROM_March_1997
199704 CICA_NT_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_1997
199704 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_2.2.1_Walnut_Creek_April_1997
199706 ADA_-_The_Public_Ada_Library_Walnut_Creek_June_1997
199706 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_2.2.2_Walnut_Creek_June_1997
199708 CICA_Ultimate_Collection_of_Shareware_for_Windows_Walnut_Creek_August_1997
199709 Audio_Toolkit_Walnut_Creek_September_1997
199709 Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_September_1997
199709 Simtel_MSDOS_1997-09
199710 Internet_Communication_Utilities_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_October_1997
199710 Jolt_Developers_Toolkit_for_the_Java_Platform_Walnut_Creek_October_1997
199711 ADA_-_The_Public_Ada_Library_Walnut_Creek_November_1997
199711 CICA_NT_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_November_1997
199711 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_2.2.5_Walnut_Creek_November_1997
199712 Internet_Info_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_December_1997
1998 TurboLinux_Business_Apps_Volume_2_Walnut_Creek_1998
199802 FreeBSD_3.0_Snapshot_Walnut_Creek_February_22_1998
199802 Linux_Red_Hat_5.0_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_February_1998
199804 cdrom-hobbes-os2-april1998-disc1
199804 cdrom-hobbes-os2-april1998-disc2
199804 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_2.2.6_Walnut_Creek_April_1998
199804 Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_1998
199806 Linux_Red_Hat_5.1_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_June_1998
199808 DJGPP_Development_System_August_1998
199808 TurboLinux_2.0_Collection_Walnut_Creek_August_1998
199809 World_Radio_Amateur_Directory_Walnut_Creek_September_1998
199810 UNIX_Freeware_Walnut_Creek_October_1998
199911 Applixware_Office_for_FreeBSD_Walnut_Creek_November_1999
199907 Business_Apps_for_Linux_Walnut_Creek_July_1999
199910 CICA_32_For_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_October_1999
199911 FreeBSD_4.0_Snapshot_Walnut_Creek_November_11_1999
199904 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_3.1_Walnut_Creek_March_1999
199905 FreeBSD_Toolkit_Walnut_Creek_May_1999
199909 FreeBSD_Toolkit_Walnut_Creek_September_1999
199909 Hobbes_OS2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_September_1999
199907 Linux_Games_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_July_1999
199906 Linux_Red_Hat_6.0_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_June_1999
199912 Linux_Toolkit_Walnut_Creek_December_1999
199901 Linux_Toolkit_Walnut_Creek_January_1999
199907 Linux_Toolkit_Walnut_Creek_July_1999
199902 Linux_Web_Tools_Walnut_Creek_February_1999
199901 Simtel_MSDOS_1999-01
199906 Slackware_Linux_4.0_Walnut_Creek_June_1999
199911 Slackware_Linux_7.0_Walnut_Creek_November_1999
199901 TurboLinux_3.0.1_Collection_Walnut_Creek_January_1999
2000 QRZ_Ham_Radio_Callsign_Database_Volume_15_Walnut_Creek_Summer_2000
200003 CICA_32_For_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_March_2000
200003 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_4.0_Walnut_Creek_March_2000
200004 FreeBSD_AXP_4.0_Walnut_Creek_March_2000
200004 Linux_Red_Hat_6.2_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_April_2000
200006 FreeBSD_Toolkit_Walnut_Creek_June_2000
200007 Slackware_Linux_7.1_Walnut_Creek_July_2000
200008 CICA_32_For_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_August_2000
200011 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_4.2_Walnut_Creek_November_2000
2001 Grace_Library_The_Revelation_of_the_Grace_of_God_The_Discovery_Edition_2001
200101 CICA_32_for_Windows_CD-ROM_Walnut_Creek_January_2001
200102 FreeBSD_Toolkit_Walnut_Creek_February_2001
200104 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_4.3_Walnut_Creek_April_2001
200106 FreeBSD_Toolkit_Walnut_Creek_June_2001
200206 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_4.6_Walnut_Creek_June_2002
200606 FreeBSD_CD-ROM_Version_5.5_Walnut_Creek_June_2006
On 10/29/18 12:54 PM, geneb wrote:
It sure would be nice if you could get a comma separated list of
metadata instead of a bunch of pretty pictures
It's fairly well hidden, but you can indeed do that:
https://archive.org/advancedsearch.php?q=collection%3Awalnutcreekcdrom&…
29 Oct
29 Oct
1:33 p.m.
Even a full list of what CDs Jason has there w/o
indexing would be helpful.
Trying to figure out what is there is a nightmare.
For a while, I had about 400gb of cd images on bitsavers until we ran out of disk space.
I probably have a few hundred more gb I've read since then. I've slowly been
trying to
find a full set of physical disks from Walnut Creek for CHM's archive.
I was recently talking to friends about making a Pi project with the Pi
camera above a CD-ROM drawer, and a pushbutton to trigger picture of CD +
ISO image automagically.
I have some AIX CDs, Oracle CDs, and old FreeBSD/Linux CDs to archive.
Years ago I had a robotic CD changer that could cycle through about 200
discs hands off. Seems like it would be ideal now :-)
Are you short on disk space?
--
: Ethan O'Toole
9:03 p.m.
I have a file called November 1994 Walnut Creek CPM cdrom.iso
is this it? ~635 Mb - 46860 files.
Bill
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:52 PM Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On 10/29/18 6:11 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote:
This is going to be a long term project that will
end when I've either
exhausted the available CD-ROMs on the IA, or I
die, whichever comes first. ;)
Even a full list of what CDs Jason has there w/o indexing would be helpful.
Trying to figure out what is there is a nightmare.
For a while, I had about 400gb of cd images on bitsavers until we ran out
of disk space.
I probably have a few hundred more gb I've read since then. I've slowly
been trying to
find a full set of physical disks from Walnut Creek for CHM's archive.
30 Oct
30 Oct
8:09 a.m.
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
I have a file called November 1994 Walnut Creek CPM
cdrom.iso
is this it? ~635 Mb - 46860 files.
Bill
Bill, that's one disc out of the hundred-plus that Walnut Creek produced.
g.
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8:34 a.m.
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:09 AM geneb via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
WOW. ok
I have a file called November 1994 Walnut Creek
CPM cdrom.iso
is this it? ~635 Mb - 46860 files.
Bill
Bill, that's one disc out of the hundred-plus that Walnut Creek produced.
g.
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