6 May
1998
6 May
'98
7:26 p.m.
Anyone see the new Apple iMac unveiled today? I like it. Instant
classic.
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6 May
6 May
8:03 p.m.
At 12:26 AM 07-05-98 -0700, Sam Ismail wrote:
Anyone see the new Apple iMac unveiled today? I like it. Instant
classic.
The best comment so far at work was that after its useful life it would be
much easier to convert into a fishbowl. Just turn upside down and fill :-)
Does look cool, but I'd like to touch one before committing one way or the
other. In my scheme of things, MacOS is about fourth or fifth choice.
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7 May
7 May
2:38 p.m.
On Thu, 7 May 1998, Sam Ismail wrote:
You're the third person I've heard say that in the last two day's (I was
the first). If three people think it, it must be true :^) Hmmmm, wouldn't
that look cool sitting on top of my PDP-11/44 as the system console :^)
Gotta agree about the instant classic, but a lot of people think it's ugly,
and I'm inclined to agree, but am reserving judgement until I actually see
one.
Anyone see the new Apple iMac unveiled today? I like it. Instant
classic.
Is it just me, or does that thing look just like a DEC VT220? BTW, how much are used 20th Aniversary Macs going for
now?
Last I saw, MacMall was selling new ones for about $2000, but they aren't
in the catalogue that came today.
Me, I want the new laptop they announced yesterday. My PowerBook 520c has
a dead screen and the new laptop with 128Mb of RAM added would TOTALLY blow
my 8500/180 away! Drool! I like the more rounded design compared to
everything since the PowerBooks went PPC.
Now if only the G4's would come out so the G3 accelerators would drop to
next to nothing :^)
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8:55 a.m.
Anyone see the new Apple iMac unveiled today? I like
it. Instant
classic.
Yep...a VERY souped up Mac 128...infact this one expands up to 128 Meg
Ram..coincidence (or hey a really neat conspiracy theory).
Looks like Steve has got back to his roots...the computer as a home appliance.
Wonder if I can run Dark Castle on it :-)
However it looks as though like the 128 it is a closed box, note:
NO mention of SCSI
NO mention of a floppy drive
NO mention of a ZIP drive
NO mention of an expansion bus
NO mention of firewire
NO mention if the internal modem is upgradeable to 56K
NO mention of video in/out
However
ALL existing peripherals will be redundant
NO ADB, therefore all input devices will need to be redisgned
ie trackballs,graphics tablets, joysticks, etc
How can you share data with a PC owner with no magnetic media for transport
Will the IR port be compatible with existing printers with IR ports
With all of the missing bits, and obviously a home machine, have 10/100
ethernet rather than firewire seems...well....stupid!
But on the plus side the blue tanslucent top is so weird that it is cool.
Personally I will wait for generation 2 when they have finally figured out
the world has moved on since the original Mac and they now expect some
level of expandability. I will almost put money the Gen2 with have dumped
the e/net in favour of firewire, just as ADB has been replced with USB.
Cheers
9:27 a.m.
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Keith Whitehead wrote:
Yep...a VERY souped up Mac 128...infact this one
expands up to 128 Meg
Ram..coincidence (or hey a really neat conspiracy theory).
Woah. That got me thinking. It'll be scary when they come out with the
512MB Fat-iMac.
How can you share data with a PC owner with no
magnetic media for transport
Simple, use the internet. That's what its there for.
With all of the missing bits, and obviously a home
machine, have 10/100
ethernet rather than firewire seems...well....stupid!
10/100 is a commerical reality. Firewire is still unproven in the
marketplace. You can hook an iMac up to TCI's cable modem service for
instance. How many telephone/cable companies are supporting firewire?
What was that? None?
Personally I will wait for generation 2 when they have
finally figured out
the world has moved on since the original Mac and they now expect some
level of expandability. I will almost put money the Gen2 with have dumped
the e/net in favour of firewire, just as ADB has been replced with USB.
I think you've missed the point. The iMac is more of an internet
appliance than a PC made for upgrading everytime a new Pentium comes out.
The whole point is that you install it and go.
I don't mean to sound like a Mac advocate but...
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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11:56 a.m.
On Fri, 8 May 1998, Keith Whitehead wrote:
....let me guess...we'll end up with a "Power Plus"
machine that has
up to 4 Gig Ram, SCSI port, new expanded keyboard, etc
Yep...a VERY souped up Mac 128...infact this one
expands up to 128 Meg
Ram..coincidence (or hey a really neat conspiracy theory).
Woah. That got me thinking. It'll be scary when they come out with the
512MB Fat-iMac. How can you share data with a PC owner with no
magnetic media for transport
Simple, use the internet. That's what its there for. With all of the missing bits, and obviously a
home machine, have 10/100
ethernet rather than firewire seems...well....stupid!
10/100 is a commerical reality. Firewire is still unproven in the
marketplace. You can hook an iMac up to TCI's cable modem service for
instance. How many telephone/cable companies are supporting firewire?
What was that? None? I think you've missed the point. The iMac is more
of an internet
appliance than a PC made for upgrading everytime a new Pentium comes out.
The whole point is that you install it and go.
Adding a SCSI/Firewire/Expansion port does not prevent this, but say in 2-3
years time
when DVD becomes prevalent the way that ZIP drives have what then..sell the
whole
machine and buy a whole new one just to add one more function...NOT, I
don't have that
sort of money to write a whole machine off every 3 years (Thats why I still
run my TRS80
4P ;-) )
I still believe that apple have grossly underestimated what the markets
expectations for
a "computer" are...even if you call it an appliance, I have a toaster, I
have a microwave, I
have plenty of appliances...what I want is a computer.
Cheers
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