2 Dec
2017
2 Dec
'17
4:34 p.m.
I spotted this article in one of my tech news feeds - it makes a couple of references to
C64's still managing building systems.
Rationale "it isn't broken".
May be of interest to some list members.
https://www.commercialrealestate.com.au/news/many-commercial-property-compa…
There's also a link in the above article to an older article (and a video) about a
Commodore Amiga running the heating system for 19
schools for 30 years which may also be of interest.
http://woodtv.com/2015/06/11/1980s-computer-controls-grps-heat-and-ac/
Kevin Parker
P: 0418 815 527
3 Dec
3 Dec
11:22 a.m.
"A new, more current system would cost between $1.5 and 2 million. "
Something tells me there's more than a Commodore Amiga involved, here. This
figure must include the radio hardware and controllers at each of the
schools. The article goes on to say that a student at one of the high
schools wrote the software that runs it all.. but it must also require some
sort of controller / interface, so who supplied that (sans software)?
Doesn't really make much sense, but then again, not a lot of reporting does.
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Kevin Parker via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I spotted this article in one of my tech news feeds -
it makes a couple of
references to C64's still managing building systems.
Rationale "it isn't broken".
May be of interest to some list members.
https://www.commercialrealestate.com.au/news/many-commercial-property-
companies-still-underestimate-the-impact-of-technology-study/
There's also a link in the above article to an older article (and a video)
about a Commodore Amiga running the heating system for 19
schools for 30 years which may also be of interest.
http://woodtv.com/2015/06/11/1980s-computer-controls-grps-heat-and-ac/
Kevin Parker
P: 0418 815 527
12:45 p.m.
"A new, more current system would cost between
$1.5 and 2 million. "
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, drlegendre . via cctalk wrote:
Something tells me there's more than a Commodore
Amiga involved, here. This
figure must include the radio hardware and controllers at each of the
schools. The article goes on to say that a student at one of the high
schools wrote the software that runs it all.. but it must also require some
sort of controller / interface, so who supplied that (sans software)?
Doesn't really make much sense, but then again, not a lot of reporting does.
First, the school board needs to go to Hawaii, Japan, France, Germany, and
Greece, in order to see how it is done there.
(In our commuter community college (adult enrichment, college
prep, basic and remedial skills, skill updating for local professionals,
job training for the digital sweatshop), the Chancellor took his large
"entourage" to China "to recruit students for the community college".
How many 18 year olds would relocate to a different continent for the sole
purpose of attending a local community college?
Then they need to hire a consultant to define the problem.
Then they need consultants to conduct studies.
Then they need to contract with systems analysis consulting companies to
prepare proposals of possible solutions.
Then they need engineering consultants to reject the current round of
proposals.
Then they need to see if IBM wants to design a dedicated system. That may
require some more travel.
Then they need to fly in the superintendent's brother in law to check it
out.
Then, IFF there is any money left in the budget for the project, they can
hire a consultant to buy and set up an Arduino, or an old Amiga out of the
closet.
Yes, they do spend somewhat more than the direct hardware cost.
1:49 p.m.
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That seems to describe perfectly the approach to our (Canada's) federal payroll system
that's gone from a $5 million contract to $180m in two years, with lots of employees
still not getting their correct pay or any pay at all
.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/phoenix-ibm-contract-union-pay-governm…
Peanuts compared to Queensland's 6m to 1.2 billion disaster:
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/queensland-health-payroll-fail-g…
Gotta hand it to IBM's lawyers though; they came out blameless...
m
"A new,
more current system would cost between $1.5 and 2 million. "
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, drlegendre . via cctalk wrote:
Something tells me there's more than a
Commodore Amiga involved, here. This
figure must include the radio hardware and controllers at each of the
schools. The article goes on to say that a student at one of the high
schools wrote the software that runs it all.. but it must also require some
sort of controller / interface, so who supplied that (sans software)?
Doesn't really make much sense, but then again, not a lot of reporting does.
First, the school board needs to go to Hawaii, Japan, France, Germany, and
Greece, in order to see how it is done there.
(In our commuter community college (adult enrichment, college
prep, basic and remedial skills, skill updating for local professionals,
job training for the digital sweatshop), the Chancellor took his large
"entourage" to China "to recruit students for the community
college".
How many 18 year olds would relocate to a different continent for the sole
purpose of attending a local community college?
Then they need to hire a consultant to define the problem.
Then they need consultants to conduct studies.
Then they need to contract with systems analysis consulting companies to
prepare proposals of possible solutions.
Then they need engineering consultants to reject the current round of
proposals.
Then they need to see if IBM wants to design a dedicated system. That may
require some more travel.
Then they need to fly in the superintendent's brother in law to check it
out.
Then, IFF there is any money left in the budget for the project, they can
hire a consultant to buy and set up an Arduino, or an old Amiga out of the
closet.
Yes, they do spend somewhat more than the direct hardware cost.
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