3 Feb
2007
3 Feb
'07
12:07 p.m.
Hi
The one I'm looking for was made at a similar time but about
a year later was made by Diehl and sold here in the US by
SCM. It was also transistors and it used two delay lines.
It booted from a metal tape with two rows of holes. I assume
clock and data.
It had a connector that was suppose to be able to read punch
cards. It could store a program of about 60 steps.
I used one of these years ago but I don't recall if it had
conditional flow. I think most people would consider conditional
flow to be the defining line between a calculator and a
computer. At least from the users point of view.
No one would dispute that the guts of these calculators were
computers.
Dwight
From: Scott Austin <us21090 at yahoo.com>
I like the looks of the Olivetti Underwood Programma 101. It even had two
blinky lights: green (solid=ready, blinking=busy) and red (error)
http://www.silab.it/frox/p101/boxbig.gif
If I recall correctly it was the first computer(*) I programmed. Back in
'72-73, while in Jr. High (btw, not "Middle School").
Several interesting things about the P101:
Introduced in 1965 (same year as PDP-8).
No ICs; all discrete components. The boards were placed component side to
component side, designed with one board's components fitting in the spaces
between the components of the other board.
Programs were stored on magnetic cards, which Olivetti received patents for
(HP had to pay about $900K in royalties for the technology use in the
HP9100)
Its approximate 240 bytes of memory used acoustic delay line technology.
Scott Austin
(*) Computer? Programmable Calculator? I'll let someone else debate about
this.
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3 Feb
3 Feb
4:01 p.m.
The Sony SMC-70 had an obviously "Italian Exotic" design, if you're into
such.
5 Feb
5 Feb
7:50 p.m.
--- Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
The Sony SMC-70 had an obviously "Italian
Exotic"
design, if you're into
such.
Oi I don't know what you're talking about. Show me
other examples of this if you want to persuade me. I
have 2 of these, actually an SMC-70 and an SMC-70G (I
think that's what it's called). Haven't used either
yet. They do power up, or at least they appear to, but
on the 70G (I think that's what it's called) it had
auto inject floppies (I think so anyway), and they
won't auto inject squat (at least I don't think they
will).
I was perusing a BYTE magazine a while back, before
my stash of BYTES got rained on, and I saw a blurb
where Sony was allegedly planning on releasing an 8088
(8086?) coprocessor for the things. Can anyone confirm
or deny if this ever happened? Oi.
I wish there were at least some Japanese collectors
on this list. Am I the only one to notice it's a part
of the world that we don't hear from on here. And a
particularly important part if you ask me.
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8:48 p.m.
> The Sony SMC-70 had an obviously "Italian
Exotic"
> design, if you're into
> such.
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Chris M wrote:
Oi I don't know what you're talking about.
Show me
other examples of this if you want to persuade me. I
talking only about the physical appearance and design of the case;
not even considering the engineering aspects.
6 Feb
6 Feb
8:26 p.m.
--- Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
I realize that, just that I hadn't thought of the
design being Italian. I had never even seen an Italian
computer, except for the AT & T 6300 aka the Olivetti
something or other, aaka the Xerox something or other.
All I can vouch for is their ruggedness. I'm quite
sure that if you hurled one at a brick wall, it would
just keep going. I found one out in the wilderness one
day (actually slightly set in the woods off of route 9
in Freehold, NJ), monitor sitting atop. The thing had
evidently set up as a kids play center thing,
unfortunately w/o the keyboard. I asked the owners of
the property if I could have it, and they said sure. I
hope the kiddies didn't mind. Brought it home and
fired it up. Monitor and cpu worked, kinda.
Unfortunately someone pulled the cpu card out. But the
p/s seemed to work fine. Monitor too, but it would
either jump or roll. I had thought of taking a picture
of the scene before I lifted it, and displaying it on
a website w/the caption "who says vintage puters are
hard to find"! LOL LOL LOL. And who says 2 or 3
seasons worth of snowfall and rain are detrimental to
a computer's health.
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> The Sony
SMC-70 had an obviously "Italian
Exotic"
> design, if you're into
> such.
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Chris M wrote:
Oi I don't know what you're talking
about. Show
me
other examples of this if you want to persuade
me.
I
talking only about the physical appearance and
design of the case;
not even considering the engineering aspects. 
5 Feb
5 Feb
9:03 p.m.
Chris M wrote:
--- Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
I was perusing a BYTE magazine a while back, before
my stash of BYTES got rained on, and I saw a blurb
where Sony was allegedly planning on releasing an 8088
(8086?) coprocessor for the things. Can anyone confirm
or deny if this ever happened? Oi.
I wish there were at least some Japanese collectors
on this list. Am I the only one to notice it's a part
of the world that we don't hear from on here. And a
particularly important part if you ask me.
But then we would have to learn Japanese. (=^_^=)
10:59 p.m.
On 2/5/07, woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
Chris M wrote:
> I wish there were at least some Japanese collectors
> on this list. Am I the only one to notice it's a part
> of the world that we don't hear from on here. And a
> particularly important part if you ask me.
I have purchased every Japanese machine I've spotted for sale in the
wild - so far, that's one Sharp word processor for which I can't buy
thermal ribbons for in the U.S. :-/
But then we would have to learn Japanese. (=^_^=)
????????
-ethan
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