IIRC there's a free/demo package from IVEX that might do, though I don't know whether it's time limited or not. I am unfamiliar with it because I felt that it was missing about 99.99% of the library component symbols and models I expected to see. It's not missing too much from their viewpoint, but The first five or six components I tried to use in their demo software were absent, so I ditched it. I'm not even sure that IVEX isn't the vendor of the Windraft, etc packages which I seem to recall it is, but they seem to reflect the same problems. There's a PD add-on for AutoCad, which isn't free, that is claimed to work well, though I haven't tried it. What I use for the bread-and-butter stuff myself is the classic DOS-based OrCAD v3.22 which works, I find, much better than the more recent GUI-based versions. OrCAD has recently come out with a schematic capture package for which there is supposed to be a route editor as well, accessible over the web only. That might meet your short-term needs. If you like the EAGLE stuff well enough, it's not terribly expensive, and certainly costs in the range from 1..10% of what the OrCAD which does from 1..10% of Eagle will do, costs. If you plan to integratge shcematic capture and PCB routing with other packages, you should look at VIEWLOGIC despite its higher cost, because it's the package now most-used to support entry on the low-cost CPLD/FPGA verndors' software. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Peter Pachla <peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk> To: Classic Computer <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: Schematic capture/PCB design software PCB a the