5 May
2005
5 May
'05
2:31 p.m.
Hi Curt
I just talked with Tix ( owner of the site ) and he
seemed at dismay. He says that he gets the pictures from
a number of people that send them in. He doesn't
always have the ability to filter out those that have
been lifted from those that are original. Also, in the
past, his site didn't have a place for credits ( I've looked
at his site before ). It seems that he has added this
and I'd suspect that the picture in question may have
been there a long time.
In any case, work with him. If you feel that he needs to
pull the picture, just let him know. His English is a
little rough, being Italian, but he is a good sort.
I think he does a good job overall and I've noticed that
in many places, he does give credits to the various sources.
I think that his intentions are good.
Dwight
From: "Curt @ Atari Museum" <curt at
atarimuseum.com>
Thanks Sellam...
Yup, just as expected, several photo's taken from my site, old ones
too. Its not the case with this site, but have you ever seen the
sites that take photo's from your own site, then the site that steals
them put's their own watermark on them, that always raises an eyebrow
for the contempt displayed. Well, dispite this 1000bit site
plundering others to generate content to for itself, it is a nice
looking, well setup site.
Curt
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On Wed, 4 May 2005, Curt @ Atari Museum wrote:
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I didn't see the original msg, whats the URL
for this Vintage Computer
site... I find my images and content from atarimuseum.com constantly
commandeered by other sites and not so much as a simple text saying
"stolen without permission" ;-)
Hey Curt!
http://www.1000bit.net
5 May
5 May
6:18 p.m.
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Dwight K. Elvey wrote:
I just talked with Tix ( owner of the site ) and he
<...>
I think that his intentions are good.
I've met Tix in person and have communicated with him through e-mail a
couple times. He's a very nice guy. It is certainly not his intention to
rip off other people's photos without credit.
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7:10 p.m.
I just talked
with Tix ( owner of the site ) and he
<...>
I think that his intentions are good.
I've met Tix in person and have communicated with him through e-mail a
couple times. He's a very nice guy. It is certainly not his intention to
rip off other people's photos without credit. from SWoC, and unlike the case wth Bryan B, he
didn't even bother linking
back.
I put up my image use policy on each page, and as a condition I request that
clearance be obtained both from me and the original submitter. He may have
asked Dan to use the image, but he certainly didn't credit him, and I know he
didn't credit or ask me. I get plenty of image use requests, so it's not
as if the policy is opaque or ill-advertised.
Whatever his intentions are, his actions are strictly parasitic and
should not be encouraged.
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7:17 p.m.
Dwight's message finally arrived (must be something with my backup mail
host). I guess it's an issue of him not thoroughly checking his sources.
I'll ask him to fix the issue with the SWoC images and see what he says.
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9:55 p.m.
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
I'm sure he's indeed a very nice guy, but whether it was his intention or
not, he *did* do it. I don't see any credit on the images I know were taken
from SWoC, and unlike the case wth Bryan B, he didn't even bother linking
back.
But he's not personally doing it himself. His users create the database
and upload images as new computers are added. To build your collection
online, you pick & choose the computers from those already entered into
the database and add them to your own collection. If you own a machine
that's not in the database, you have the option to create the entry and
then upload a photo to go along with it. Folks who've been uploading
photographs have not been exercising proper courtesy. Tix hasn't done a
good job monitoring his site.
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I just talked with Tix ( owner of the site ) and he
<...>
I think that his intentions are good.
I've met Tix in person and have communicated with him through e-mail a
couple times. He's a very nice guy. It is certainly not his intention to
rip off other people's photos without credit.
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