28 Aug
2003
28 Aug
'03
12:55 a.m.
That's a good start. You should also file a
complaint with the BBB
(Better Business Bureau). Finally, for a good FTP client from a good
company, might I suggest Van Dyke Software?
http://www.vandyke.com
I don't know about your neck of the woods, Sellam, but here in Central Florida
where Joe and I live the BBB is little more than a shakedown for small
businesses. Each time they call me to solicit a membership and I tell them
that I'm not interested, they close the conversation by stating that "there
have been recent inquiries concerning your company" and "we'll get back to
those who inquired and let them know that you're not a member in good
standing and that you refused to provide us with information regarding your
business."
And BTW, what's wrong with the FTP client provided with Win9x? Sure, it's
command-line only, but IMHO beats paying for a GUI version . . .
Just my two cents worth . . .
Glen Goodwin
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28 Aug
28 Aug
1:04 a.m.
acme(a)ao.net wrote:
And BTW, what's wrong with the FTP client provided
with Win9x? Sure, it's
command-line only, but IMHO beats paying for a GUI version . . .
The FTP client only supports active-mode FTP, not passive. I've fallen
foul of it a couple of times when behind a firewall.
Dan
5:05 a.m.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 acme(a)ao.net wrote:
I don't know about your neck of the woods, Sellam,
but here in Central Florida
where Joe and I live the BBB is little more than a shakedown for small
businesses. Each time they call me to solicit a membership and I tell them
that I'm not interested, they close the conversation by stating that "there
have been recent inquiries concerning your company" and "we'll get back to
those who inquired and let them know that you're not a member in good
standing and that you refused to provide us with information regarding your
business."
Hmmm. Sounds like you can make a legal case for extortion if you can
determine that in fact there are no such inquiries.
And BTW, what's wrong with the FTP client provided
with Win9x? Sure, it's
command-line only, but IMHO beats paying for a GUI version . . .
Hahahahaha :)
Seriously though, there are freeware versions that can be readily
downloaded that are 1000 times better. But for my purposes, I like
VanDyke's Secure FX because I don't use any open-text (i.e. unencrypted)
protocols any longer for remote access.
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9:53 a.m.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:49:13AM -0700, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 acme(a)ao.net wrote:
That depends. FTP is ok for things like downloading software archives
And BTW, what's wrong with the FTP client
provided with Win9x? Sure, it's
command-line only, but IMHO beats paying for a GUI version . . .
Hahahahaha :)
Seriously though, there are freeware versions that can be readily
downloaded that are 1000 times better. But for my purposes, I like
VanDyke's Secure FX because I don't use any open-text (i.e. unencrypted)
protocols any longer for remote access. from public ftp servers - no password to steal. For any
file transfer
where the authentication is better kept secret, scp is the tool of
choice for me.
Regards,
Alex.
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looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
6:14 a.m.
New subject: BBB (was: WS-FTP and the...)
Quothe acme(a)ao.net, from writings of Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 02:27:35PM -0400:
I don't know about your neck of the woods, Sellam,
but here in
Central Florida where Joe and I live the BBB is little more than a
shakedown for small businesses. Each time they call me to solicit a
membership and I tell them that I'm not interested, they close the
conversation by stating that "there have been recent inquiries
concerning your company" and "we'll get back to those who inquired
and let them know that you're not a member in good standing and that
you refused to provide us with information regarding your business."
Very interesting. I had a call like that as well, here in Maryland.
What seems interesting to me is that all of the "rip off businesses"
(e.g., the auto repair shops that would try to sell one a new engine
when all one needs is one of the a vacuum hoses to be connected to the
right place, or that replace a starter when the problem is a bad
connection between the external-type starter solenoid and the
inner-fender... where they become very nasty when one points out that
they're wrong) have BBB stickers, wall plaques, etc. promimently
displayed. Hence, I figure that a business placing an emphasis on
their BBB membership is a business to be avoided so that I can avoid
someone trying to rip me off. BTW, I once worked for an HMO (I worked
with their VAX) that proudly displayed BBB info. in their lobby, and
they paid physicians bonuses for not doing the right things for their
patients (I saw the memo), thus cutting costs.
Also, filing a complaint with the BBB appears to be a waste of
time... I suspect that they give the members with the most complaints
the fanciest wall plaques to display. :-)
Just my two cents worth . . .
Mine too.
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12:15 p.m.
New subject: BBB (Was: WS-FTP and the AssHoles at Ipswitch
> That's a good start. You should also file a
complaint with the BBB
> (Better Business Bureau). Finally, for a good FTP client from a good
On Wed,
27 Aug 2003 acme(a)ao.net wrote:
I don't know about your neck of the woods, Sellam,
but here in Central Florida
where Joe and I live the BBB is little more than a shakedown for small
businesses. Each time they call me to solicit a membership and I tell them
that I'm not interested, they close the conversation by stating that "there
have been recent inquiries concerning your company" and "we'll get back to
those who inquired and let them know that you're not a member in good
standing and that you refused to provide us with information regarding your
business."
The same identical thing happened to me in 1978 in Berkeley, CA.
But they started with the threats BEFORE I had made my decision.
After a few times, I wrote to the state attorney general.
I got back a form letter that said that unless there was
direct evidence of a crime, that they wouldn't get involved,
and that if I had a problem with any business, (other than a
readily provable crime), that I should instead consider filing
a complaint with the BBB.
As to who DOES join,...
Remember Chris Farley's comments about displaying a warranty,
in the movie where he was peddling auto parts.
1:52 p.m.
New subject: Quantum Fireball LCT 6.4 gig needed
I'm trying to do some circuit-board transplant data rescue for
a client, and I need one of these circa 1997 3.5 inch drives, commonly
used in Dells and IBM Aptivas. Ideally, "P/N LA08A011 rev A01."
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