Damn site was working a couple of months ago, now Yahoo/Geocities claim it doesn't exist, and Google seem to have done a spendid job of only caching half the page, which is nice of them. Unfortunately the bit I want is to do with the 4D-25 machines which is on the missing part :-( Don't suppose any SGI collectors have their own archived copy of the page do they? (It was just the one page to the site IIRC; it was just huge) Original page was: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2258/4dfaq.html I won't post the Google cache link as it's huge. Does Google's web cache - upon finding a big page - just cache half of it? Surprised they don't either cache a whole page or nothing at all to be honest. Half a page isn't much use to anyone :) I *finally* got around to picking up that SGI which I posted on the list about just before Christmas. I need to wire up an adapter cable for a later SGI keyboard (I can borrow said keyboard from the museum then just to make sure the system I got works), plus it'd be nice to know what graphics options I have. There are a couple of daughter boards on the graphics board so hopefully it's one of the better-specced systems... cheers Jules