20 Feb
2010
20 Feb
'10
1:16 p.m.
Hello,
We are located in the Raleigh, NC area and have a three
car garage with a single room above it. We are planning on converting
this to an apt for my son. The problem is it's full of stuff I've
collected since the early 80's. The collection is heavily slanted
towards early computers and electronics.
These pictures are of a
single room, just showing different views of the collection when it was
spread out prior to storing it into stacks.
eCollection
( http://www.flickr.com/photos/60147280 at N00/sets/72157622274120485/ )
My question is, does anyone know of someone local to the Raleigh area that could help us
in the sale of this?
Regards,
WPW
20 Feb
20 Feb
3:29 p.m.
I would say you are going to at least make a "rough list" of what you have.
I noticed a Kaypro, but what model / version.
Can't see enough to really identify much.
Good luck !
Contact www.vintage-computer.com and do a post.
All the best !
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: WP Wood <woodwp_98 at yahoo.com>
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2010 4:16 pm
Subject: Collection Reduction
Hello,
We are located in the Raleigh, NC area and have a three
ar garage with a single room above it. We are planning on converting
his to an apt for my son. The problem is it's full of stuff I've
ollected since the early 80's. The collection is heavily slanted
owards early computers and electronics.
These pictures are of a
ingle room, just showing different views of the collection when it was
pread out prior to storing it into stacks.
eCollection
( http://www.flickr.com/photos/60147280 at N00/sets/72157622274120485/ )
My question is, does anyone know of someone local to the Raleigh area that could
elp us in the sale of this?
Regards,
WPW
4:25 p.m.
WP Wood wrote:
Hello,
We are located in the Raleigh, NC area and have a three
car garage with a single room above it. We are planning on converting
this to an apt for my son. The problem is it's full of stuff I've
collected since the early 80's. The collection is heavily slanted
towards early computers and electronics.
And your son doesnt want to live with all that? how odd!!! I'm sure
many on here would! ;-)
Rog
6:55 p.m.
with that amount and variety, perhaps you ought to consider having
someone hold an auction... An auction service would do the inventory as
part of the pkg deal....
ss
WP Wood wrote:
Hello,
We are located in the Raleigh, NC area and have a three
car garage with a single room above it. We are planning on converting
this to an apt for my son. The problem is it's full of stuff I've
collected since the early 80's. The collection is heavily slanted
towards early computers and electronics.
These pictures are of a
single room, just showing different views of the collection when it was
spread out prior to storing it into stacks.
eCollection
( http://www.flickr.com/photos/60147280 at N00/sets/72157622274120485/ )
My question is, does anyone know of someone local to the Raleigh area that could help us
in the sale of this?
Regards,
WPW
21 Feb
21 Feb
8:56 a.m.
New subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy from Illinois please reply..
To all,
After processing emails for the Micro Cornucopia and
MicroSystems magazines, my WinXP PC's hard drive
suffered (Actually I suffered) a failure and all emails from
interested parties were lost.
I know that a Roy from Illinois (rhyms..) was the first to
answer....but I need this address.
I believe that Teo will be receiving some PS/2 stuff as well.
That leaves the Centronics and NEC spinwriter..
Dan Snyder - Butler, PA
3:31 p.m.
New subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy from Illinois please reply..
Dan,
I would still be interested. I did contact you but you said they were previously spoken
for.
Since I am near Quakertown, PA, just south of Allentown, Pa, shipping may be
cheaper than some.
I did a post on www.vintage-computer.com about that they would be put on
a DVD for all to use. But there are some legal matters that need to be resolved - e.g.,
copyright.
I post under GADFRAN.
They are very valuable for Kaypros in many ways. That is my area of expertise
and research. My web site is WWW.KAYPROSTS.ORG
You can also contact me thru my web site.
Hopefully, they will get a good home and be available to all.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Snyder <ddsnyder at zoominternet.net>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sun, Feb 21, 2010 11:56 am
Subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy from Illinois please reply..
To all,
After processing emails for the Micro Cornucopia and
MicroSystems magazines, my WinXP PC's hard drive
suffered (Actually I suffered) a failure and all emails from
interested parties were lost.
I know that a Roy from Illinois (rhyms..) was the first to
answer....but I need this address.
I believe that Teo will be receiving some PS/2 stuff as well.
That leaves the Centronics and NEC spinwriter..
Dan Snyder - Butler, PA
4:11 p.m.
New subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy from Illinoisplease reply..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Snyder" <ddsnyder at zoominternet.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:56 AM
Subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy from
Illinoisplease reply..
To all,
After processing emails for the Micro Cornucopia and
MicroSystems magazines, my WinXP PC's hard drive
suffered (Actually I suffered) a failure and all emails from
interested parties were lost.
I know that a Roy from Illinois (rhyms..) was the first to
answer....but I need this address.
I believe that Teo will be receiving some PS/2 stuff as well.
That leaves the Centronics and NEC spinwriter..
Dan Snyder - Butler, PA
I wanted the PS2-TV, Model 80, and a Model 70 486
26 Feb
26 Feb
5:24 p.m.
New subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
Teo,
No problem, they are marked for you.. As for DEC Connect cables, all of mine
are in use.
I bought some remaining stock from a vendor on ebay, relatively cheap.
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Teo Zenios" <teoz at neo.rr.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy
fromIllinoisplease reply..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Snyder" <ddsnyder at zoominternet.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:56 AM
Subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy from
Illinoisplease reply..
To all,
After processing emails for the Micro Cornucopia and
MicroSystems magazines, my WinXP PC's hard drive
suffered (Actually I suffered) a failure and all emails from
interested parties were lost.
I know that a Roy from Illinois (rhyms..) was the first to
answer....but I need this address.
I believe that Teo will be receiving some PS/2 stuff as well.
That leaves the Centronics and NEC spinwriter..
Dan Snyder - Butler, PA
I wanted the PS2-TV, Model 80, and a Model 70 486
27 Feb
27 Feb
4 p.m.
New subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
Good post by Chuck on www.vintage-computer.com on some of the legalities of trying to
distribute copyrighted material like MicroC
on DVD, etc.
Apoparently, Dave Thompson is still in Bend, OR area, so it may be good for him to be
contacted - need
Google, etc. searches of course for contact info.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Snyder <ddsnyder at zoominternet.net>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
Teo,
No problem, they are marked for you.. As for DEC Connect cables, all of mine are in use.
I bought some remaining stock from a vendor on ebay, relatively cheap.
Dan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Teo Zenios" <teoz at neo.rr.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Snyder" <ddsnyder at
zoominternet.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:56 AM
Subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy from > Illinoisplease
reply..
To all,
After processing emails for the Micro Cornucopia and
MicroSystems magazines, my WinXP PC's hard drive
suffered (Actually I suffered) a failure and all emails from
interested parties were lost.
I know that a Roy from Illinois (rhyms..) was the first to
answer....but I need this address.
I believe that Teo will be receiving some PS/2 stuff as well.
That leaves the Centronics and NEC spinwriter..
Dan Snyder - Butler, PA
I wanted the PS2-TV, Model 80, and a Model 70 486
5:05 p.m.
New subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
On 27 Feb 2010 at 19:00, fjgjr1 at aol.com wrote:
Good post by Chuck on www.vintage-computer.com on some of the
legalities of trying to distribute copyrighted material like MicroC on
DVD, etc.
Apoparently, Dave Thompson is still in Bend, OR area, so it may be
good for him to be contacted - need Google, etc. searches of course
for contact info.
411.com yields:
David J Thompson
1097 NW Saginaw Ave
Bend, OR 97701-1650
(541) 388-0700
If it's not *the* David J. Thompson, it must be someone who knows who
he is.
--Chuck
28 Feb
28 Feb
7:50 p.m.
New subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
Thanks Chuck !
I will send a Priority Mail to him to get details as you suggest..
We "MUST REMAIN LEGAL" - and that is shouting!
I did the Vintage-computer.com [vc.com] to alert people and to start a dialogue.
You told it well !
Puzzling - why bitsavers and some others are distributing these copyrighted materials?
Maybe different laws in other countries.
We can PM on VC.com
Thanks again !
Frank
[GADFRAN on vc.com]
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sat, Feb 27, 2010 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
On 27 Feb 2010 at 19:00, fjgjr1 at aol.com wrote:
Good post by Chuck on www.vintage-computer.com
on some of the
legalities of trying to distribute copyrighted material like MicroC on
DVD, etc.
Apoparently, Dave Thompson is still in Bend, OR area, so it may be
good for him to be contacted - need Google, etc. searches of course
for contact info.
411.com yields:
David J Thompson
097 NW Saginaw Ave
end, OR 97701-1650
541) 388-0700
If it's not *the* David J. Thompson, it must be someone who knows who
e is.
--Chuck
8:41 p.m.
New subject: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
On 28 Feb 2010 at 22:50, fjgjr1 at aol.com wrote:
Puzzling - why bitsavers and some others are
distributing these
copyrighted materials?
Frank, bitsavers is part of the CHM, and Al Kossow does get
permission where possible--he also has a policy that if someone
complains about a copyright violation, that the material is removed
immediately.
As an archivist, he does a very good job. But you will see that his
IBM material cuts off with the S/390. No AS/400 or anything about
the PC line. This is because IBM does not wish to give permission to
do that.
At some point, especially given Google's publishing material from
magazines such as InfoWorld and PCWeek, I think the final rules on
electronic distribution haven't been written yet.
The best of luck with David!
Cheers,
Chuck
3 Mar
3 Mar
7:45 p.m.
New subject: RESPONSE - Re: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
Wednesday, March 03, 2010
My response to your email on copyright in computing
Chuck,
Thank you so much! I am just trying to understand all this.
Any ?hints? on David would be much appreciated. It is very understandable that he just
walked away as IBM and their clones took over, especially after all he was doing and had
done.
That is all part of my science, technology and society [STS] research, much on my website
? WWW.KAYPROSTS.ORG - which will be greatly improved, upgraded, updated, etc. now that we
finally have cable in our very rural area.
Right now I am backed up on a number of STS projects, but I hope to get something to David
in the next week Priority Mail. But I know that it must be good, since it may be the only
chance I have. Others may also be bombarding him with inquiries also.
Whatever he decides, we have to respect it.
But it would be shame if all his work and those at MicroC is not kept alive and it is
allowed just to die. So many can still profit from it in so many ways. Also, such
computer history can be preserved.
Since I am a now retired chemist, the following just came this week - Chemical and
Engineering News [C&EN] 02/22/2010 page 41 [WWW.CEN-ONLINE.ORG] - "Professors Cry
Foul Over Website" article by Bethany Halford of C&EN Northeast News Bureau ? on
copy infringement selling professors course materials including old tests on the web !
So you have enough to find this information yourself. I can send you a copy of this one
page article [e.g., fair use naturally copyright wise], if you need it.
American Chemical Society [ACS] that publishes this trade magazine quotes Eric S. Slater,
their manager of copyright permissions and licensing for the ACS, states that
"Anything that a professor creates for his class - lecture notes, PowerPoint
presentations - is copyrighted."
But hassle is doing the paper work to get them to stop.
Launched January 2008, Course Hero founded by Andrew T. Grauer, is the web site and
charges $40 / month, but some other options for payment. He claims 450,000 members and
materials from about 3500 colleges and universities ? total documents over 6 million ! So
we are talking ?big time here !?
But much of this information is ?for free? on the various websites of the professors. The
professors did not know their ?intellectual property? was being sold ! They certainly did
not give any permissions for such uses.
I totally agree, we have a long way to go here. This is only the beginning.
As you must know, the whole music industry, among many others, are also dealing with this
in so many ways.
You can check my web site out for my background ? WWW.KAYPROSTS.ORG. I was involved with
about a decade of lawsuits with one of my employers over their very serious safety,
hazardous waste, environmental issues / violations. Much more info if you need it.
So I am very sensitive to the legal process and laws. It is not what you think it is
after you have been involved with it so long.
You may already be aware of such matters.
So all these people better be very careful ! There already have been some ?incidents? as
you probably are aware of.
But all we can do is to alert them. Then it is their decision. Unfortunately, many times
some people have to be seriously hurt, especially financially, before the message gets
thru.
Certainly this web site has made it very clear in so many posts about copyright issues.
Much more info from my end, if you are interested.
Just ask if you have any questions or if something is not clear.
My only motivation is to try to do our best for this fantastic hobby of vintage computers.
It has been a new world for me.
Thanks again so much!
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: Free for pickup - update - MicroC magazines - Roy fromIllinoisplease reply..
On 28 Feb 2010 at 22:50, fjgjr1 at aol.com wrote:
Puzzling - why bitsavers and some others are
distributing these
copyrighted materials?
Frank, bitsavers is part of the CHM, and Al Kossow does get
ermission where possible--he also has a policy that if someone
omplains about a copyright violation, that the material is removed
mmediately.
As an archivist, he does a very good job. But you will see that his
BM material cuts off with the S/390. No AS/400 or anything about
he PC line. This is because IBM does not wish to give permission to
o that.
At some point, especially given Google's publishing material from
agazines such as InfoWorld and PCWeek, I think the final rules on
lectronic distribution haven't been written yet.
The best of luck with David!
Cheers,
huck
21 Feb
21 Feb
5:12 p.m.
Hi,
( http://www.flickr.com/photos/60147280 at
N00/sets/72157622274120485/ )
Cannot see that :-(
Says "This page is private!" - Why?!?
--
http://www.hachti.de
22 Feb
22 Feb
1:07 a.m.
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Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Namens Philipp Hachtmann
Verzonden: maandag 22 februari 2010 2:13
Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Onderwerp: Re: Collection Reduction
Hi,
They're gone, deleted I think.
I've seen them Yesterday, mostly home computer stuff ..
-Rik
(
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60147280
at N00/sets/72157622274120485/ )
Cannot see that :-(
Says "This page is private!" - Why?!?
--
http://www.hachti.de
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