Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)ricochet.net> wrote: OK, you've mentioned the HP 85, so I'll write about it a bit. Was the 85 portable? That's a good question. HP apparently thought it could be pressed into service that way -- I remember the CEs bringing out a largish travel case containing an 85 with (at least) an HP-IB interface and some tapes that made it a diagnostic tool and exerciser for CS/80 disc drives. Of course, they also brought some other similarly sized travel cases full of 7933 kit and a hand truck to help move the lot from station wagon to computer room. But I didn't see that case come up to the computer room unless the CEs thought they were going to use it to deal with the problem at hand. Make of that what you will. I read it as: it's easily movable, but it's not convenient enough to be carried everywhere. I'm thinking that the 85 was designed at HP's Corvallis site. Were those responsible thinking of themselves as "Portable Computer Division" back then? -Frank McConnell