What has happened with the terminal stuff in Georgia? On 7/28/16 7:40 AM, Ian S. King wrote:

On 7/28/16 9:50 AM, Todd Killingsworth wrote: Thanks. I've been working on terminal archiving and simulation the past couple of weeks, and I'm sure there are parts in there I could use. Terminals have reached the other side of the bathtub curve, and keyboard prices are insane. I've been really disappointed in the ones I've been buying off eBay. One of them was literally filled with sawdust, another covered in machine oil

This last batch with spreadsheet was not from GA, it was from St. Louis. So all the stuff you saw Todd, is pretty much still there. The heat is killing them, almost literally. The temp in the warehouse reaches above 115 this summer, and it is making the workers sick. Rich did say he reached out to several people, but never heard back from them. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Todd Killingsworth Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:47 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: more vintage computer stuff ...and since Cindy's contact has liquidated his Mac stash... Does anyone know a good place to go scouting for a Mac SE/30 around Atlanta? I'd like to play with Apple's Smalltalk, and the iMacs are lonely. :D I'm aware of EPay, but maybe its possible to avoid shipping? Todd Killingsworth On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:

Cindy wrote.... -------- Sorry if posting my site is not allowed. If so, please delete this post. -------- Cindy - thanks for your post. I have seen on occasion a past commercial seller (not here any longer) not fit in well with the mentality of this list. You are not one of those. You're a perfect model of how a commercial seller can be a fantastic contributor to the list. I'm glad you're here, and appreciate the way you participate! Same goes for Paul A and a couple others. J

On 7/28/16 12:20 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: Well, I find them helpful as well, like the guys who have reversed-engineered the Wyse keyboard protocol and built keyboard adapters. All I've noticed is you don't see terminals with keyboards any more, especially ones with ALPS or Cherry keyswitches, and while you see lots of listings for Wyse keyboards because of the demand for the keyswitches, you see almost none for Televideo and especially Qume. Since they are all out of production now, it will just end up in the future that you'll just use whatever PS/2 or USB keyboard you can find with an adapter to the original protocol.

Well, personally, the biggest reason is that they require that I subject myself to the Web. I recognize that few people share this attitude. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

One other addendum to my last point- oftentimes they mutilate the vintage devices too- They'll dremel out a place to put a USB port on a vintage keyboard, or worse- harvest keyswitches out of them. I once had a keyboard collector offer to buy a working GRiD Compass 1129 off of me so they could remove the keyboard and make a PC keyboard out of it. And they have means and motivation the same as anyone, so they often offer the same kind of prices a real legitimate collector who wants the whole system would. I have also spoken with people who have been contacted by keyboard collectors who go so far as to lie about owning a machine to close a deal on a rare keyboard with someone who would not be willing to sell it otherwise. It's getting to be a trendy hobby for people who want interesting old artifacts without space, learning and restoration commitment necessitated by classic computing, and that's a real problem. </soapbox> - Ian On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com> wrote: -- Ian Finder (206) 395-MIPS ian.finder at gmail.com

Hi: I don't recognize it, but I collect APL (and LISP) memorabilia and am interested in it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Stein" <mhs.stein at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:32:06 PM Subject: Re: more vintage computer stuff Speaking of keyboards, I have an APL keyboard here but can't remember what terminal it's for: https://picasaweb.google.com/115794482077177620188/6315055733924603137?auth… Connects via a DA-15; made by Keytronic but can't see any other meaningful markings. Anybody recognize it, or interested in it for that matter? mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Kossow" <aek at bitsavers.org> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:38 PM Subject: Re: more vintage computer stuff