Dear god. Thank you. On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com> wrote:

All versions from all types welcome On Jan 12, 2016 3:50 PM, "geneb" <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:

It's just media, and it's a way dead platform. Another issue is that some of it requires this license file thing that has these codes that are needed for things like the C and C++ compilers, which generally won't compile stuff written for GCC without modifications. So if you find SGI machines always try to reset the root password and look for the license.dat file to check if it has anything special. The file contents look like this: http://pastebin.com/sw4fUyxP

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote: Because the way you worded it appeared to invalidate what was done without offering anything more than "a waste of time". Had you written, "It's a waste of time because <logical reasons>", then I probably wouldn't have been a dick about it. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Jacob Ritorto <jacob.ritorto at gmail.com> wrote: I need to put the two-proc module in my Octane and fire it up. Anyone know of the top of his/her head if I have to reinstall IRIX, or does it pick up on the multiproc config at boot and Do The Right Thing? Or do I just need to RTFM? -- Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate The Information School <http://ischool.uw.edu> Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical Narrative Through a Design Lens Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal <http://tribunalvoices.org> Value Sensitive Design Research Lab <http://vsdesign.org> University of Washington There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Yeah, the versions > 6.5.22 can be nice for a variety of reasons if you've got the later hardware. [I think the last one even had an almost-totally-working default DHCP config out-of-box. ;) ] I run it on systems where I can. 6.5.22 is nice because it doesn't have dependencies on some of the harder to find later developer CDs, and it is the last version I expect a lot of the SGI hardware changing hands these days, but it is sufficient for the late SGIs too. (later versions drop Indy, Indigo2, Onyx, etc.) *anyway- If you plan on ever installing more than a couple SGIs...* Doing a* full and up-to-date *install from scratch using the CDs is a *pain* . Solution- netboot. The CDs [there are a zillion point release layer things] are in EFS format and can't be mounted on OS X or Windows. At some point I mounted them all on Linux and wrote a script that copied the /dist folders to a folder structure on an NFS share I use to do a net install. It has various mid-release CD versions for things like the Developer Libraries and NFS discs, and can do a pretty full install of both 6.5.30 and 6.5.22 for older (I2, Indy, etc.) systems. There's also some demos / application CDs, and some of the more recent SGI-built [freeware- mozilla, etc] freeware CDs. *These are all components of IRIX itself as supplied with systems over the years*, but the layered CD-based software distribution model employed by SGI is maddening. I don't have the original images- I never plan to touch an IRIX CD again. What's SGI-rackable's take? pretty sure support for these ended LONG ago- last release is 10 years old and they will not sell you IRIX, nor current or extended support. I could look into tarring this up and getting it on Archive.org. - Ian -- Ian Finder (206) 395-MIPS ian.finder at gmail.com

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote: The net-based install was rather fussy about the shell on the installation server. To work around it, I wrote a Linux pre-load shim that caught all invocations and directed them to the compatible shell binary. If this is of interest to anyone, I can probably unearth the code from a backup tape (my SGIs - and the installation server - have been gone for years). --

Just a heads up, SGI Indigo2 power supplies will fail, and it's a few caps that are documented online (4 if I recall) that just need to be swapped. -- Ethan O'Toole

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Ian S. King wrote: You're welcome, but I'm just the guy pointing it out. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

My coworker has a Fuel sitting on his desk here, I'm staring at it. There is some sort of failure with mobo or power supply. He has a spare motherboard for it, but I think he said it's PSU. Prob caps, is there a known issue with them? Also, I used nfs to get to ISO data of IRIX 6.5.2x updates for my Octane and it worked fine. Flashbacks to my days as a sysad @ NASA in IRIX land, and as a huge SGI fanboy... https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/13/Image02.jpg 96proc, 64GB, 7TB, 2.something million dollars https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/13/Image15.jpg o2k, my favorite... https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/13/Image20.jpg Petabytes in the background, in 2001 or so. -- Ethan O'Toole

Thanks for the comments. All this SGI discussion has me wanting to go out and hunt down a Fuel even more. It sounds like I need to focus on finding one with a rev-4 or better power supply. Its been some time since I have personally done any soldering. There's got to be some place, for a fee, that knows about and can repair SGI power supplies. Jerry On 01/15/16 03:26 PM, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:

The Fuel PS can be swapped for its PC counter part. Wonder over to Nekochan.net and search for Fuel Power supply, there is a lot of info on this. The p1 connector has to be resorted and the replacement PS has to have the fan monitoring and that signal has to be adjusted to what L1 expects. The motherboard has several environment monitoring ICs that, on the early revisions, go bad and keeps the computer from starting. These ICs are/were available for the brave hearted to attempt the repair. The later motherboards apparently don't suffer from the enviro monitoring failures as often. Nekochan is a great resource, it was invaluable for me when I was building my Fuel. Tom On Friday, January 15, 2016, Jerry Kemp <other at oryx.us> wrote: