Unfortunately I (somehow) missed the start of this thread, but I figured I might as well jump in. I don't even know for sure who asked the original question, but I hope this gets to whoever is interested. First of all, you need to set kermit to transfer binary files in order to transfer tasks (I figure it handles this if you allow it to automatically decide the mode as well). Second, kermit-11 can send attribute packets, which tranfers RMS information, along with the file. Third, KERMIT-11 is somewhat buggy. I wrote a patch or two to remedy the most obvious errors (which crashed KERMIT-11 if attribute packets were sent). However, I got tired of this whole thing, and wrote a program similar to uuencode/uudecode for RSX, which preserves everything, while converting to/from plain text files. I called it COD, and it's in MACRO-11. Not in all respects a beautiful program (the source, that is), but it works very nice, and it's free. Using this, you just throw your file at COD, transfer the text file, run it through COD, and you have your file back. It retains all attributes, contigous state, and some other meta information as well (such as file protection). If anyone need it, it is free, available in source at ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp11/rsx/tools/cod/ Johnny Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol