9 May
2003
9 May
'03
6:25 a.m.
This is just to remind anyone who saw my post a few days ago, and
hasn't yet decided they need to rescue this MINC...
DEC MINC 11
This is a self contained mobile unit based on a PDP11.
It has an ADC, Digital I/O and clock. VT05 VDU on top of it. Dual
8"
floppies. Era 1980. Quite heavy!!
It's available up until 21st April - maybe a bit beyond if you really
want it.
The deadline was extended until next week, but it is now a firm
deadline -- the owner (not me) is in Edinburgh, and is moving office
next week, to a new site. There's no way the MINC can go with him, and
there's probably soe other stuff available as well. Surely someone can
rescue this machine!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
9 May
9 May
8:22 a.m.
Hi there
I am interested and not to far away in Newcastle. Probably I could
collect Monday or wedensday.
Graeme
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Peter Turnbull
Sent: 09 May 2003 19:23
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: (Fwd) MINC-11 available (UK)
This is just to remind anyone who saw my post a few days ago, and
hasn't yet decided they need to rescue this MINC...
DEC MINC 11
This is a self contained mobile unit based on a PDP11.
It has an ADC, Digital I/O and clock. VT05 VDU on top of it. Dual
8"
floppies. Era 1980. Quite heavy!!
It's available up until 21st April - maybe a bit beyond if you really
want it.
The deadline was extended until next week, but it is now a firm
deadline -- the owner (not me) is in Edinburgh, and is moving office
next week, to a new site. There's no way the MINC can go with him, and
there's probably soe other stuff available as well. Surely someone can
rescue this machine!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
16 May
16 May
3:56 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of graeme
Sent: 09 May 2003 21:20
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: (Fwd) MINC-11 available (UK)
Hi there
I am interested and not to far away in Newcastle. Probably I could
collect Monday or wedensday.
Graeme
Yay - 2 classiccmpers in Newcastle.....what are the chances of that? :)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
5:24 a.m.
Hi
Picked up in good condition, all appears to work fine but no boot disk.
Graeme
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Witchy
Sent: 12 May 2003 11:16
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org; cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: (Fwd) MINC-11 available (UK)
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of graeme
Sent: 09 May 2003 21:20
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: (Fwd) MINC-11 available (UK)
Hi there
I am interested and not to far away in Newcastle. Probably I could
collect Monday or wedensday.
Graeme
Yay - 2 classiccmpers in Newcastle.....what are the chances of that? :)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
23 May
23 May
1:55 p.m.
New subject: BBC Masters available for free, UK
Hi folks,
Here's a mail I've received from another collectors list, a teacher is
retiring soon and wants homes for 20 complete BBC Masters. Manchester area.
As usual, please contact him directly:
I have around 20 128 Masters , disc drives and
monitors and software
available free for anyone to pick up in next two months. Can you
tell me of any sites that might be interested. Manchester area.
yes feel free to pass my e-mail but it is important that i am
contacted soon. The reason is that i am a teacher and am retiring
in July and my successor wants to throw out the Master we have...
g thompson" <biggt(a)macunlimited.net>
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
13 Jun
13 Jun
3:38 a.m.
New subject: Magnavox Odyssey
Yay - finally got my paws on a boxed Odyssey! It's a US model so I might
have some fun interfacing it with the TV card in my PC but it looks complete
apart from, wait for it, the rest of the 'game cable' that goes between the
Odyssey and the switch box - in the past someone's obviously needed a length
of coax and chopped everything apart from the last 8 inches off!
Does anyone have a spare I can buy/swap? Failing that does anyone know the
proper name of the plug used 'cos I can always make my own, though the plug
looks pretty non-standard.
Pics are up at http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk in the Magnavox section :)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
3:53 a.m.
New subject: Magnavox Odyssey
And thusly Witchy spake:
Pics are up at http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk in the Magnavox section :)
Hello,
I just tried to view the pictures... I am using Lynx at work so I
tried accessing the "text" version of your site off the pages that says
my browser does not support frames and received a 404 error.
So I went through the "main" link and was able to get to the
Magnavox section. Do you use progressive scan encoding on your jpeg's?
My OS is QNX 4.25 and the picture viewer does not like your jpeg's. It
give an error "Unsupported SOF marker type 0xc2". (not that this may
mean much)
Cheers,
Bryan
15 Jun
15 Jun
10:12 a.m.
New subject: Magnavox Odyssey
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Bryan Pope
Sent: 13 June 2003 16:46
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Magnavox Odyssey
And thusly Witchy spake:
Hello,
I just tried to view the pictures... I am using Lynx at work so I
tried accessing the "text" version of your site off the pages that says
my browser does not support frames and received a 404 error.
Yeah, I forgot about that link. Because I was working at the time I didn't
have enough time or energy to keep the main version and the text version in
sync. Then I started redesigning it to lose the frameset and never finished
that either so it's in limbo :)
Pics are up at http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk in the Magnavox
section :)
My OS is QNX 4.25 and the picture viewer does not like
your jpeg's. It
give an error "Unsupported SOF marker type 0xc2". (not that this may
mean much)
Hmm. It appears that's the default for saving web pages on Photoshop 7, so
the answer is yes I do but I didn't know! I'll resave them as
non-progressive so check back tomorrow.
How does it look otherwise under QNX?
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
13 Jun
13 Jun
3:38 a.m.
New subject: Items wanted in the UK for purchase or lease
Hi folks,
I've received this request for a couple of items wanted on this side of the
pond. If anyone can help can they contact Tony Edwards directly on either
the number in the message below or at tedwards(a)tech-group.co.uk.
cheers!
---------------------------------------------------------
message: Hi
I am trying to aquire a copy of Vintage computer parts for our Chairman to
put on display in our new building.
The first item Circa 1970 - GRI-909 Mini Computer - This is a tough one
The second item required is an example of Magnetic Core Memory. For either
item we are willing to purchase or Lease.
As a Technology Company ourselves we may have something of interest to you.
Please advise if you can be of help to each other
Regards - Tony Edwards
01793 833440
The Technologies Group
www.tech-group.co.uk
---------------------------------------------------------
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
8:52 a.m.
New subject: Items wanted in the UK for purchase or lease
F
I've received this request for a couple of items
wanted on this side of the
pond. If anyone can help can they contact Tony Edwards directly on either
the number in the message below or at tedwards(a)tech-group.co.uk.
-----
Regards - Tony Edwards
01793 833440
The Technologies Group
www.tech-group.co.uk
-----
Well, he's mailing around since some time, but as far as I know
never accepted an offer ...
Gruss
H.
--
VCF Europa 5.0 am 01./02. Mai 2004 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
17 Jun
17 Jun
2:32 a.m.
New subject: Items wanted in the UK for purchase or lease
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Hans Franke
Sent: 13 June 2003 21:52
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Items wanted in the UK for purchase or lease
F
Really? It's the first time I've heard from him - how long has he been doing
this?
cheers
--
adrian/witchy - still looking for an Odyssey game cable :)
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
I've received this request for a couple of
items wanted on this
side of the
pond. If anyone can help can they contact Tony
Edwards directly
on either
the number in the message below or at
tedwards(a)tech-group.co.uk.
-----
Regards - Tony Edwards
01793 833440
The Technologies Group
www.tech-group.co.uk
-----
Well, he's mailing around since some time, but as far as I know
never accepted an offer ... 
13 Jun
13 Jun
9:16 a.m.
New subject: Items wanted in the UK for purchase or lease
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Witchy wrote:
I am trying to aquire a copy of Vintage computer parts
for our Chairman to
put on display in our new building.
The first item Circa 1970 - GRI-909 Mini Computer - This is a tough one
Does anyone have a GRI-909 here?
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *
24 Jun
24 Jun
11:05 a.m.
New subject: Burroughs B21 workstations available, UK
Hi folks,
Alan Perry's message about Burroughs stuff has reminded me I've got loads of
it here that I'd like to keep but there's just too much of it and it doesn't
fit in the museum's ethos, so it's available free to a good home, UK only
and collection preferred from the Newcastle area. Of course I don't mind
shipping as long as full shipping costs are paid by the interested party,
though I imagine they'd not be far short of 'an arm and a leg' :)
Rough list:
B21 workstation, working and tested.
B21 workstation believed to be broken but I've not taken it out of its box
since it was sent here a couple of years ago.
Full BTOS doc set including languages and compilers.
Boxes of floppies including a couple of BTOS distros.
Spare motherboard
Spare hard drive
Might be other bits lurking in there!
Someone here will undoubtedly get more use out of them than I will....
Ade? Fancy putting 'em in yer warehouse? :o)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
11:32 a.m.
New subject: Burroughs B21 workstations available, UK
I picked up my B25, B26 and B38 today. They also came with a third-party data
storage system with a relatively large disk and a bernoulli drive (plus
disks/cartridges for the bernoulli). Just have to figure out how I am getting
everything from CT back to Seattle.
I would love the docs and s/w and would be willing to pay shipping. However,
the hardware would be a pain to send as well (though, as much as I dislike the
earlier B20 machines compared to the later ones, a B21 would make my collection
more complete) and I am sure whoever gets the h/w would also like the s/w.
alan
Quoting Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk>uk>:
Hi folks,
Alan Perry's message about Burroughs stuff has reminded me I've got loads of
it here that I'd like to keep but there's just too much of it and it doesn't
fit in the museum's ethos, so it's available free to a good home, UK only
and collection preferred from the Newcastle area. Of course I don't mind
shipping as long as full shipping costs are paid by the interested party,
though I imagine they'd not be far short of 'an arm and a leg' :)
Rough list:
B21 workstation, working and tested.
B21 workstation believed to be broken but I've not taken it out of its box
since it was sent here a couple of years ago.
Full BTOS doc set including languages and compilers.
Boxes of floppies including a couple of BTOS distros.
Spare motherboard
Spare hard drive
Might be other bits lurking in there!
Someone here will undoubtedly get more use out of them than I will....
Ade? Fancy putting 'em in yer warehouse? :o)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
27 Jun
27 Jun
1:21 p.m.
New subject: Burroughs B21 workstations available, UK
Hi Alan and group,
Happily Graeme from this list is local to me so he's coming tomorrow to pick
everything up :)
Got to dig it all out now, which'll be interesting 'cos its spread all over
the storage room!
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Alan Perry
Sent: 25 June 2003 00:21
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Burroughs B21 workstations available, UK
I picked up my B25, B26 and B38 today. They also came with a
third-party data
storage system with a relatively large disk and a bernoulli drive (plus
disks/cartridges for the bernoulli). Just have to figure out how
I am getting
everything from CT back to Seattle.
I would love the docs and s/w and would be willing to pay
shipping. However,
the hardware would be a pain to send as well (though, as much as
I dislike the
earlier B20 machines compared to the later ones, a B21 would make
my collection
more complete) and I am sure whoever gets the h/w would also like the s/w.
alan
Quoting Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk>uk>:
Hi folks,
Alan Perry's message about Burroughs stuff has reminded me I've
got loads
of
it here that I'd like to keep but there's
just too much of it
and it doesn't
fit in the museum's ethos, so it's
available free to a good
home, UK only
and collection preferred from the Newcastle area.
Of course I don't mind
shipping as long as full shipping costs are paid by the
interested party,
though I imagine they'd not be far short of
'an arm and a leg' :)
Rough list:
B21 workstation, working and tested.
B21 workstation believed to be broken but I've not taken it out
of its box
> since it was sent here a couple of years ago.
> Full BTOS doc set including languages and compilers.
> Boxes of floppies including a couple of BTOS distros.
> Spare motherboard
> Spare hard drive
> Might be other bits lurking in there!
>
> Someone here will undoubtedly get more use out of them than I will....
>
> Ade? Fancy putting 'em in yer warehouse? :o)
>
> cheers
>
> --
> adrian/witchy
> www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
> www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
13 Jul
13 Jul
12:04 p.m.
New subject: PDP rescue, Cambridge, UK
Hi folks,
Does anyone have the means and the storage to rescue store 4 big-box PDPs
before the 21st July? I'm supposed to be doing it myself on tuesday (15th)
but I think the van hire costs will be too much for me since I'm
unemployed.....because I'm coming from the north it'll need 2 or 3 days van
hire (Luton with a tail-lift) and that's gonna cost me!
Anyone got any thoughts?
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
9 May
9 May
9:06 a.m.
The deadline was extended until next week, but it is
now a firm
deadline -- the owner (not me) is in Edinburgh, and is moving office
next week, to a new site. There's no way the MINC can go with him, and
there's probably soe other stuff available as well. Surely someone can
rescue this machine!
Edinburgh is a bit (a lot!) far for me ... especially as I have my eyes on a
11/34 thats currently on eBay in the UK (and within a couple of hours
drive!)
Andy
16 May
16 May
4:27 a.m.
New subject: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
Morning all,
Another one for you :)
Had a quick trawl of the archives 'cos I'm sure someone's mentioned doing
this, but the recent stuff isn't archived yet is it? Anyway, What's the best
way to get data off Apple ][e disks and onto something that has a CD burner
fastened to it? I've got a bunch of old disks here containing documents and
BASIC programs that need to be archived.
I'm assuming null-modem cable connection between Apple/PC and file transfer
software? Xmodem or something like that? Kermit?
Thanks in advance,
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
5:18 a.m.
New subject: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
FWIW
IIRC, There's something called ADT that'll move entire entire disk
images back and forth.. (via serial)
Much of it depends on what format you want the data to be in
on the PC side.
David
On Thu, 15 May 2003, Witchy wrote:
Morning all,
Another one for you :)
Had a quick trawl of the archives 'cos I'm sure someone's mentioned doing
this, but the recent stuff isn't archived yet is it? Anyway, What's the best
way to get data off Apple ][e disks and onto something that has a CD burner
fastened to it? I've got a bunch of old disks here containing documents and
BASIC programs that need to be archived.
I'm assuming null-modem cable connection between Apple/PC and file transfer
software? Xmodem or something like that? Kermit?
Thanks in advance,
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
9:54 a.m.
New subject: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
On Thu, 15 May 2003, Witchy wrote:
Morning all,
Another one for you :)
Had a quick trawl of the archives 'cos I'm sure someone's mentioned doing
this, but the recent stuff isn't archived yet is it? Anyway, What's the best
way to get data off Apple ][e disks and onto something that has a CD burner
fastened to it? I've got a bunch of old disks here containing documents and
BASIC programs that need to be archived.
I'm assuming null-modem cable connection between Apple/PC and file transfer
software? Xmodem or something like that? Kermit?
If you have the hardware and the patience to get it all working together,
I suggest AppleTalk networking. I have a IIgs and //e networked off a
Linux box (running Netatalk). Works very well for mass file-copying, it's
fast and the file dates are preserved properly.
You'll need (at a minimum):
- Ethernet <---> LocalTalk bridge. I use a Shiva FastPath 4, but there
are dozens of models which are reported to work. Gator Box is one I've
heard a lot about.
- Apple //e + Apple Workstation card
and/or
- Apple IIgs (Rom 3 preferable)
Server can be a Mac, in which case the necessary protocols are (or should
be) there already. For Linux, you need appletalk support in the kernel
and the very latest version of netatalk.
For configuration info, read the docs. Then, read the docs. Finally,
read the code <g>.
Steve
17 May
17 May
12:28 a.m.
New subject: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
At 05:50 PM 5/16/03 -0400, Steven N. Hirsch wrote:
- Ethernet <---> LocalTalk bridge. I use a Shiva
FastPath 4, but there
I have about a dozen of these, and they are pretty much the "best" in terms
of fully supporting things like MacTCP (TCP inside of appletalk packets),
but I have never setup and used one for myself, any suggestions, hints or
tips on doing it?
I do have a bunch of Shiva files I saved prior to Intel swallowing it up,
but its really the more info than less problem.
1:09 a.m.
New subject: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
On Fri, 16 May 2003, Mike Ford wrote:
At 05:50 PM 5/16/03 -0400, Steven N. Hirsch wrote:
I basically blundered my way through the setup, so I can't be of much help
with a methodical approach. It would be great if someone out there could
scan in the docs (which I've never laid eyes on) and post them as a PDF...
Steve
- Ethernet <---> LocalTalk bridge. I use a
Shiva FastPath 4, but there
I have about a dozen of these, and they are pretty much the "best" in terms
of fully supporting things like MacTCP (TCP inside of appletalk packets),
but I have never setup and used one for myself, any suggestions, hints or
tips on doing it?
I do have a bunch of Shiva files I saved prior to Intel swallowing it up,
but its really the more info than less problem.
7:43 p.m.
New subject: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Steven N. Hirsch
Sent: 16 May 2003 22:50
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
If you have the hardware and the patience to get it all working together,
I suggest AppleTalk networking. I have a IIgs and //e networked off a
Linux box (running Netatalk). Works very well for mass
file-copying, it's
fast and the file dates are preserved properly.
You'll need (at a minimum):
- Ethernet <---> LocalTalk bridge. I use a Shiva FastPath 4, but there
are dozens of models which are reported to work. Gator Box is one I've
heard a lot about.
- Apple //e + Apple Workstation card
and/or
- Apple IIgs (Rom 3 preferable)
Server can be a Mac, in which case the necessary protocols are (or should
be) there already. For Linux, you need appletalk support in the kernel
and the very latest version of netatalk.
For configuration info, read the docs. Then, read the docs. Finally,
read the code <g>.
Meep! I can do all of that apart from the LocalTalk bridge and the
Workstation card, though such a beast may exist in my Big Box Of Apple Cards
That Are Hitherto Undocumented. Hmm. At least I know where THAT is.....been
having much difficulty in finding stuff of late!
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
18 May
18 May
10:46 a.m.
New subject: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
On Fri, 16 May 2003, Witchy wrote:
If you can scrounge up a IIgs, you don't even need the Workstation card.
LocalTalk is built in.
Steve
-----Original
Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Steven N. Hirsch
Sent: 16 May 2003 22:50
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
If you have the hardware and the patience to get it all working together,
I suggest AppleTalk networking. I have a IIgs and //e networked off a
Linux box (running Netatalk). Works very well for mass
file-copying, it's
fast and the file dates are preserved properly.
You'll need (at a minimum):
- Ethernet <---> LocalTalk bridge. I use a Shiva FastPath 4, but there
are dozens of models which are reported to work. Gator Box is one I've
heard a lot about.
- Apple //e + Apple Workstation card
and/or
- Apple IIgs (Rom 3 preferable)
Server can be a Mac, in which case the necessary protocols are (or should
be) there already. For Linux, you need appletalk support in the kernel
and the very latest version of netatalk.
For configuration info, read the docs. Then, read the docs. Finally,
read the code <g>.
Meep! I can do all of that apart from the LocalTalk bridge and the
Workstation card, though such a beast may exist in my Big Box Of Apple Cards
That Are Hitherto Undocumented. Hmm. At least I know where THAT is.....been
having much difficulty in finding stuff of late!
19 May
19 May
2:49 a.m.
New subject: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Steven N. Hirsch
Sent: 18 May 2003 23:42
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
I've got 2 IIgs' here, a ROM 00 one signed by the man himself and a ROM 03
one. This means I only need a Shiva bridge....:) *hint to Mike Ford :o))*
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
That Are Hitherto Undocumented. Hmm. At least I
know where THAT
is.....been
having much difficulty in finding stuff of late!
If you can scrounge up a IIgs, you don't even need the Workstation card.
LocalTalk is built in.
11:07 a.m.
New subject: Data transfer from Apple ][ to PC
I've got 2 IIgs' here, a ROM 00 one signed by
the man himself and a ROM 03
one. This means I only need a Shiva bridge....:) *hint to Mike Ford :o))*
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
Just remind me and next time I come to the UK I will bring one. ;) It
shouldn't be more than a year or so, and would be worth it just for the
explaining what it is at the airport.
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