28 Jun
2016
28 Jun
'16
2:28 a.m.
Hi all,
I have a Norsk Data ND110324 9-track drive which is a rebranded
StorageTek 2920 with SCSI interface. So far I have only found a single
manual for it, a quick guide card of 10 pages.
Is there a manual out there which describes the unit a bit more in
depth, like setting the SCSI address, diagnostic program codes, service,
technical specifications and so on.
So far I have got it to load a tape automatically and detect the
recording density. Next step is to get it to talk to a linux-computer
for imaging some old tapes.
Thanks in advance,
G?ran
28 Jun
28 Jun
2:37 a.m.
Adding the links I should have included from start ... doh!
Den 2016-06-28 kl. 11:28, skrev G?ran Axelsson:
Hi all,
I have a Norsk Data ND110324 9-track drive which is a rebranded
StorageTek 2920 with SCSI interface.
http://www.ndwiki.org/wiki/User:Gandalf/hw/filestore_2
So far I have only found a single manual for it, a
quick guide card of
10 pages.
http://sintran.com/norsk-data/library/libquick/libquick.html
Is there a manual out there which describes the unit a bit more in
depth, like setting the SCSI address, diagnostic program codes,
service, technical specifications and so on.
So far I have got it to load a tape automatically and detect the
recording density. Next step is to get it to talk to a linux-computer
for imaging some old tapes.
Thanks in advance,
G?ran
10:16 a.m.
On 06/28/2016 04:28 AM, G?ran Axelsson wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Norsk Data ND110324 9-track drive which is a
rebranded StorageTek 2920 with SCSI interface. So far I
have only found a single manual for it, a quick guide card
of 10 pages.
Is there a manual out there which describes the unit a bit
more in depth, like setting the SCSI address, diagnostic
program codes, service, technical specifications and so on.
Are you sure it is SCSI? 2920 sounds real familiar, I think
we had a 2920 at work, and the interface was proprietary.
Just because it has 50-pin connectors does not mean it is SCSI.
There were a couple outfits that made controllers for it. I
think we had an Aviv Q-bus controller for ours.
I still have that board.
Jon
11:36 a.m.
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:28 AM, G?ran Axelsson <axelsson at acc.umu.se> wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Norsk Data ND110324 9-track drive which is a rebranded StorageTek
2920 with SCSI interface. So far I have only found a single manual for it, a
quick guide card of 10 pages.
Is there a manual out there which describes the unit a bit more in depth,
like setting the SCSI address, diagnostic program codes, service, technical
specifications and so on.
FWIW, there is one on eBay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-For-Storage-Technology-Corp-2920-Tape-Subs…
--
Regards
Torfinn
12:10 p.m.
On 6/28/16 11:36 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
FWIW, there is one on eBay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-For-Storage-Technology-Corp-2920-Tape-Subs…
I bought it, and will take care of getting it scanned and on bitsavers.
I've got some other STC manuals in the queue too.
29 Jun
29 Jun
12:58 p.m.
The 2920 has been discussed here before, about a year ago. I went through
my back emails, but couldn't find the thread.
The 2920 came in some flavor of Pertec, and SCSI via rear-mounted
adapter. Yours appears to have the adapter interface. We ran several of
the pertec version of these drives in our shop with Aviv unibus
controllers. Our drives had basic diagnostic info inside the door, which
was quite nice. Unfortunately, my memory is too sketchy at the moment to
be helpful.
I believe JP Hindin has the service docs (and one of the drives) from my
shop, though they may be inaccessible at the moment.
--Shaun
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
On 6/28/16 11:36 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
FWIW, there is one on eBay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-For-Storage-Technology-Corp-2920-Tape-Subs…
I bought it, and will take care of getting it scanned and on bitsavers.
I've got some other STC manuals in the queue too.
1:11 p.m.
On 6/29/16 12:58 PM, Shaun Halstead wrote:
I believe JP Hindin has the service docs (and one of
the drives) from my
shop, though they may be inaccessible at the moment.
there is one version of the maint manual up under stc on bitsavers now. it turns
out I have several other versions, and the manual for the formatter
1:22 p.m.
Well, this is fun. Same part number on the manual, but different sets of interfaces
defined. I found the one that has SCSI in it, and will try to get it uploaded later
today.
I don't appear to have the schematics for the SCSI version.
On 6/29/16 1:11 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
On 6/29/16 12:58 PM, Shaun Halstead wrote:
I believe JP Hindin has the service docs (and
one of the drives) from my
shop, though they may be inaccessible at the moment.
there is one version of the maint manual up under stc on bitsavers now. it turns
out I have several other versions, and the manual for the formatter
3 Jul
3 Jul
6:56 a.m.
New subject: StorageTek 2920 9-track manual or instructions wanted (And a bit about rescuing a Nord-1)
Hi and thanks for all the help I got! Both on the list and via email
directly.
A couple of days ago I did a quick test of the drive and I was able to
load tapes, both manually and with automatic tape loading. It's a really
nice drive. BPI were detected automatically so the drive seems to be i
good condition.
I haven't been to my storage yet since I saw the new documents scanned
by Al, but from the pictures I have taken it looks like it is a
SCSI-drive, the other interfaces uses two cables instead of one.
Whenever I get some time to spare I will try to get the drive connected
to a linux computer. It is possible to run the 2920 both as singel ended
and differential so I should have a lot of different interface cards to
choose from for the PC end. It looks bright right now. :-)
The reason I haven't responded before is that I got busy with a rescue
of a NORD-1 computer in southern Norway. It took 28 hours to fly down to
G?teborg to meet up with a friend already in the south, drive to Norway,
load the computer in my friends van and drive it back to Ume?. I hope my
reason for the lack of interest in this thread is excusable. :-)
The computer is the first model made by Norsk Data AS, it has serial
number 47 and was built in the summer of 1972, equipped with 32 kword of
core memory. It's one of my dream machines and it is almost complete. :-D
http://www.ndwiki.org/wiki/NORD-1_Serial_47
G?ran
Den 2016-06-29 kl. 22:22, skrev Al Kossow:
Well, this is fun. Same part number on the manual, but
different sets of interfaces
defined. I found the one that has SCSI in it, and will try to get it uploaded later
today.
I don't appear to have the schematics for the SCSI version.
On 6/29/16 1:11 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
> On 6/29/16 12:58 PM, Shaun Halstead wrote:
>
>> I believe JP Hindin has the service docs (and one of the drives) from my
>> shop, though they may be inaccessible at the moment.
>>
> there is one version of the maint manual up under stc on bitsavers now. it turns
> out I have several other versions, and the manual for the formatter
>
>
30 Jun
30 Jun
12:23 a.m.
On 29 June 2016 at 22:11, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
there is one version of the maint manual up under stc
on bitsavers now. it turns
out I have several other versions, and the manual for the formatter
I noticed there's now both an stc directory (with the 2920 manual) and
a storagetek directory (with 4220 and 4280 manuals). Are they not the
same company? The stc manual says 'storagetek' at least once inside
(although it mostly uses the term 'Storage Technology Corporation',
and one of the storagetek manuals for the 4220 (which has 'StorageTek'
on every page) uses 'Storage Technology Corporation' on its address
(last) page. Maybe it's easier to find this way, if the emphasis
changed from 'STC' to 'StorageTek' over the years, is that why? Or are
they really different companies?
-Tor
5:33 a.m.
On 6/30/16 12:23 AM, Tor Arntsen wrote:
On 29 June 2016 at 22:11, Al Kossow <aek at
bitsavers.org> wrote:
Yes, STC or "Storage Technology Corporation" was the earlier name.
Generally, if there are name changes I use the earliest name but I
didn't have any STC docs uploaded. I'll merge the two at some point.
I'm working on scans from about six other STC products right now.
To be pedantic, M4 Data / STC / StorageTek should all be under "Oracle"
since Sun bought StorageTek, and DEC/Compaq should be under whatever
"HP" is calling themselves this week, so I try to stick with the
earliest company names.
there is one version of the maint manual up under
stc on bitsavers now. it turns
out I have several other versions, and the manual for the formatter
I noticed there's now both an stc directory (with the 2920 manual) and
a storagetek directory (with 4220 and 4280 manuals). Are they not the
same company?
23 Sep
23 Sep
12:05 a.m.
On 30 June 2016 at 14:33, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
On 6/30/16 12:23 AM, Tor Arntsen wrote:
Just for the record, some days ago I stumbled over physical manuals
for the STC 2920, to be specific 'Storage Technology Corporation 2920
Tape Subsystem Maintenance Manual, January 1986'. Volume 1 and Volume
2. Original STC binders. Volume 2 still in unopened plastic wrapping.
They're heavy and would be expensive to ship from Norway I guess. But
if in the future anyone would need them I may still have them - will
try to find somewhere to store them, for a few years at least. But
they appear to be approximately the same as is on bitsavers already.
Looking at the ebay link in the earlier post, my Volume 1 has a page
that looks the same, except that my copy has 'January 1986' printed as
well. Volume 2 is called 'Logics'. As I haven't opened it I haven't
checked exactly what's in there, and/or if that is covered by the
bitsavers scans.
-Tor
On 29 June 2016 at 22:11, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
Yes, STC or "Storage Technology Corporation" was the earlier name.
Generally, if there are name changes I use the earliest name but I didn't
have any STC docs uploaded. I'll merge the two at some point.
I'm working on scans from about six other STC products right now. there is one version of the maint manual up under
stc on bitsavers now.
it turns
out I have several other versions, and the manual for the formatter
I noticed there's now both an stc directory (with the 2920 manual) and
a storagetek directory (with 4220 and 4280 manuals). Are they not the
same company?
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