28 Jan
2002
28 Jan
'02
11:47 a.m.
Okay,
Check out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=132714756
And then just wonder..
Cheers,
<with a stiff drink>
BTW - the starting price was $299!
28 Jan
28 Jan
1:07 p.m.
Bryan Pope wrote:
Okay,
Check out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=132714756
And then just wonder..
Cheers,
<with a stiff drink>
BTW - the starting price was $299!
I paid less than that for my first VIC-20 at Monkey Wards. wonder if I
could still get $340 for my first 1541 drive (laughs hysterically). I
do have a bunch of them, and all the goodies too.
Maybe 100 year from now they'll be worth that, but I won't be alive to
see it . . .
Gary Hildebrand
12:27 p.m.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Gary Hildebrand wrote:
Bryan Pope wrote:
Looks like it was probably a scam, ebay or the seller took it down.
-Toth
Check out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=132714756
And then just wonder..
I paid less than that for my first VIC-20 at Monkey Wards. wonder if I
could still get $340 for my first 1541 drive (laughs hysterically). I
do have a bunch of them, and all the goodies too.
Maybe 100 year from now they'll be worth that, but I won't be alive to
see it . . .
1:01 p.m.
And thusly Tothwolf spake:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Gary Hildebrand wrote:
I am sorry!! I must have lost a character in the cut & paste... :( Add a
'1' to the end... So this should work:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327147561
Sorry 'bout that!
Bryan
Bryan Pope wrote:
Looks like it was probably a scam, ebay or the seller took it down.
Check out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=132714756
And then just wonder..
I paid less than that for my first VIC-20 at Monkey Wards. wonder if I
could still get $340 for my first 1541 drive (laughs hysterically). I
do have a bunch of them, and all the goodies too.
Maybe 100 year from now they'll be worth that, but I won't be alive to
see it . . .
1:19 p.m.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Bryan Pope wrote:
I am sorry!! I must have lost a character in the cut
& paste... :(
Add a '1' to the end... So this should work:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327147561
Ah, that explains it.
Sorry 'bout that!
It happens...
This auction still smells fishy...Either it's a ploy to bring prices on
these old things up to insane amounts, or the buyer wanted a boxed VIC20
very very badly.
-Toth
1:59 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Tothwolf
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 19:19 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Your VIC-20 is worth $300!!! W@W!
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Bryan Pope wrote:
I would go with very very badly. Check what this Vectrex just went for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1324083432 And if
you're interested, compare to other Vectrexs. Even in an unopened box, it
went for an insane amount.
--John
I am sorry!! I must have lost a character in the
cut & paste... :(
Add a '1' to the end... So this should work:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327147561
Ah, that explains it.
Sorry 'bout that!
It happens...
This auction still smells fishy...Either it's a ploy to bring prices on
these old things up to insane amounts, or the buyer wanted a boxed VIC20
very very badly.
-Toth
3:10 p.m.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, John Chris Wren wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
Well, at least these kinds of auctions won't affect the market long-term.
Once all the people with lots of cash spend it all on stuff like this, the
prices will start to drop back down where they should be.
-Toth
This auction still smells fishy...Either it's
a ploy to bring prices on
these old things up to insane amounts, or the buyer wanted a boxed VIC20
very very badly.
I would go with very very badly. Check what this Vectrex just went
for. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1324083432
And if you're interested, compare to other Vectrexs. Even in an
unopened box, it went for an insane amount. 
3:55 p.m.
This auction still smells fishy...Either it's a
ploy to bring prices on
these old things up to insane amounts, or the buyer wanted a boxed VIC20
very very badly.
I would go with very very badly. Check what this Vectrex just went
for. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1324083432
And if you're interested, compare to other Vectrexs. Even in an
unopened box, it went for an insane amount.
4:05 p.m.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
Nah, it'll be sitting in some poor guy's attic or garage :)
-Toth
Well, at least these kinds of auctions won't
affect the market long-term.
Once all the people with lots of cash spend it all on stuff like this, the
prices will start to drop back down where they should be.
Yeah, but by then all the cool stuff will be gone! 
2:53 p.m.
Hey, I could supply most of that. The NIB Vic-20, NIB printer/plotter, NIB
1541 plus a NIB Vic modem and a slew of manuals and SW.
Maybe the thing is to be AGGressive in your merchandizing, but I smell a
put-on to the whole thing. On the other hand the Apple 1 did go for $25,000
and the K-pro II did go for $499. I'm tempted to put up my A-IIc NIB LCD for
$500 and see if the Silicon Valley money jumps on it.
But of course, he says slyly "I still maintain the integrity of my collection"
And yes, I will accept another tot of cognac.
Lawrence
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Bryan Pope wrote:
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
I am sorry!! I must have lost a character in the
cut & paste... :(
Add a '1' to the end... So this should work:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327147561
Ah, that explains it.
Sorry 'bout that!
It happens...
This auction still smells fishy...Either it's a ploy to bring prices on
these old things up to insane amounts, or the buyer wanted a boxed VIC20
very very badly.
-Toth
7:27 a.m.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Lawrence Walker wrote:
Maybe the thing is to be AGGressive in your
merchandizing, but I smell
a put-on to the whole thing. On the other hand the Apple 1 did go for
$25,000 and the K-pro II did go for $499. I'm tempted to put up my A-IIc
NIB LCD for $500 and see if the Silicon Valley money jumps on it.
You're over a year too late for that. There's no more money in the
Silicon Valley.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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2:20 p.m.
Bryan Pope wrote:
And thusly Tothwolf spake:
and somebody bought it . . . well there are some interesting goodies,
such as the 1520 printer plotter. I saw one once, they are cute but not
all too useful. Now if it had a 1540 drive and the original narrow
carriage printer . . . .
Gary Hildebrand
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Gary Hildebrand wrote:
I am sorry!! I must have lost a character in the cut & paste... :( Add a
'1' to the end... So this should work:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327147561
Sorry 'bout that!
Bryan Bryan Pope wrote:
Looks like it was probably a scam, ebay or the seller took it down.
Check out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=132714756
And then just wonder..
I paid less than that for my first VIC-20 at Monkey Wards. wonder if I
could still get $340 for my first 1541 drive (laughs hysterically). I
do have a bunch of them, and all the goodies too.
Maybe 100 year from now they'll be worth that, but I won't be alive to
see it . . . 
1:43 p.m.
Rumor has it that Gary Hildebrand may have mentioned these words:
and somebody bought it . . .
Yea, but did you see the userID of the person that ended it with "buy it
now?" Judging from that, I'd wager (not a lot, mind you) that this person
is not going to pay for the system, anyhow... [for those of you who didn't
see the purchaser's ID: fuxor69, 0 feedback & recently signed up or changed
his/her userID.]
well there are some interesting goodies,
such as the 1520 printer plotter.
Want one? ;-)
"Merch"
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
2:08 p.m.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote:
Rumor has it that Gary Hildebrand may have mentioned
these words:
I noticed that myself, smells very fishy :P
Even more strange...have a look at the seller's other auctions. Not one
other computer or even a high priced item in the whole list.
-Toth
and somebody bought it . . .
Yea, but did you see the userID of the person that ended it with "buy
it now?" Judging from that, I'd wager (not a lot, mind you) that this
person is not going to pay for the system, anyhow... [for those of you
who didn't see the purchaser's ID: fuxor69, 0 feedback & recently
signed up or changed his/her userID.]
2:06 p.m.
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Gary Hildebrand wrote:
and somebody bought it . . . well there are some
interesting goodies,
such as the 1520 printer plotter. I saw one once, they are cute but
not all too useful. Now if it had a 1540 drive and the original
narrow carriage printer . . . .
I've got one of these plotters in the original Styrofoam packing stored
away somewhere. The outer box was gone when I got it, as was its power
supply. Speaking of which, anyone have an extra wall wart (or brick?) for
one of these that they'd be willing to part with?
-Toth
29 Jan
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4:03 p.m.
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Tony Duell wrote:
Anyway, mine has a built-in PSU. Just an IEC plug on
the back ('kettle
plug') that, in my case, takes in 240V AC. I guess they were made with
different transformers for other voltages.
It would appear that mine does as well. I never looked at it closely,
since it looked like a brick or wall-wart was supposed to fit into the
styrofoam packing. I guess nothing went there.
According to the schematic, the transformer has a
single secondary
winding (no taps). The AC from that is rectified, smoothed, and then
regulated down to a couple of 5V rails by a linear regulator circuit.
I would guess that the secondary gives about 8 to 9 VAC. If you
insist, I'll try to find my 1520 and measure it.
Thanks for the offer, but I thought it needed a wall-wart or something,
which is what I wanted to know the output voltage of.
-Toth
30 Jan
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1:24 p.m.
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Tony Duell wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
Nope, there is a separate cut-out in the styrofoam where the cables were
packed. The cutout I mentioned is about 3" in diameter, about 4" deep, and
has a square bit of cardboard fitted into it. It looked about the right
size for a wall-wart to fit into.
Commodore's 1520 (mine at least) has an enclosed paper roll hanger on the
back of the unit. It seemed to be attached from the factory.
-Toth
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Tony Duell wrote:
Paper roll?
IIRC. the paper roll does not fit inside the 1520, it hangs on the back
on a couple of silly brackets. Which were packed separately in the box.
Presumably the paper roll had to go somewhere.
Or maybe a 'kettle lead'? I'd expect it to have come with one. Anyway, mine has a built-in PSU. Just an IEC plug
on the back ('kettle
plug') that, in my case, takes in 240V AC. I guess they were made with
different transformers for other voltages.
It would appear that mine does as well. I never looked at it closely,
since it looked like a brick or wall-wart was supposed to fit into the
styrofoam packing. I guess nothing went there.
2:58 p.m.
Damn., I wish you guys wouldn't necessitate me having to unbury items.
First of all there's an indentation on the outside of the styrofoam for the
manual. Inside is a circular cut-out for the cable, another slot for the crayon
tube, a long slot with a short boot bottom for the standard power cord that
would never be big enough for a wall-wart and the main cut-out with room for
the print roll and plastic box cover which could be slipped out of the slide-in
brackets. Scooped it from a dumpster. Never used except by me to test it.
Lawrence
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Tony Duell wrote:
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
Nope, there is a separate cut-out in the styrofoam where the cables were
packed. The cutout I mentioned is about 3" in diameter, about 4" deep, and
has a square bit of cardboard fitted into it. It looked about the right
size for a wall-wart to fit into.
Commodore's 1520 (mine at least) has an enclosed paper roll hanger on the
back of the unit. It seemed to be attached from the factory.
-Toth
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Tony Duell wrote:
Paper roll?
IIRC. the paper roll does not fit inside the 1520, it hangs on the back
on a couple of silly brackets. Which were packed separately in the box.
Presumably the paper roll had to go somewhere.
Or maybe a 'kettle lead'? I'd expect it to have come with one. Anyway, mine has a built-in PSU. Just an IEC plug
on the back ('kettle
plug') that, in my case, takes in 240V AC. I guess they were made with
different transformers for other voltages.
It would appear that mine does as well. I never looked at it closely,
since it looked like a brick or wall-wart was supposed to fit into the
styrofoam packing. I guess nothing went there.
3:29 p.m.
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Lawrence Walker wrote:
First of all there's an indentation on the outside
of the styrofoam
for the manual. Inside is a circular cut-out for the cable, another
slot for the crayon tube, a long slot with a short boot bottom for the
standard power cord that would never be big enough for a wall-wart and
the main cut-out with room for the print roll and plastic box cover
which could be slipped out of the slide-in brackets. Scooped it from a
dumpster. Never used except by me to test it.
The packing I have has the place for a power cord, but the circular
cut-out has a square bit of cardboard in it. I didn't notice a slot for
the pen tube, but I wasn't looking for it.
-Toth
2:58 p.m.
Possibly the Euro package was different from the american one. A covered
printer roll with slide-in brackets. Attached in the box with the roll inside..
Lawrence
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Tony Duell wrote:
Paper roll?
IIRC. the paper roll does not fit inside the 1520, it hangs on the back
on a couple of silly brackets. Which were packed separately in the box.
Presumably the paper roll had to go somewhere.
Or maybe a 'kettle lead'? I'd expect it to have come with one.
-tony
Anyway, mine has a built-in PSU. Just an IEC plug
on the back ('kettle
plug') that, in my case, takes in 240V AC. I guess they were made with
different transformers for other voltages.
It would appear that mine does as well. I never looked at it closely,
since it looked like a brick or wall-wart was supposed to fit into the
styrofoam packing. I guess nothing went there. 
3:46 p.m.
Possibly the Euro package was different from the
american one. A covered
printer roll with slide-in brackets. Attached in the box with the
roll inside..
My 1520 has a fairly sturdy mount for the paper holder,
attached permanently to the back of the printer with a smoke-colored
cover that flips up and back to allow the roll to be dropped into
channels at the end of two arms.
Jeff
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