Really, in my opinion; its not _extremely_ bad just for some basic poking around in VMS (which is all I can really do with such a minimal install anyways :) I once had a 386SX-16 running like Slackware Linux 3.5 as a NAT gateway on my LAN with 4 megs of RAM... after that, pretty much anything else seems fast (considering it pretty much ran from swap :) I'd like to get some more RAM for it.. originally, it had a 6 meg expansion board, but it turned out to be bad so I removed it.. I'd like to get the system expanded to something a bit more usable, but i've not had much luck tracking down memory (and I gather the stuff that is out there usually is a bit expensive). On the other hand, I'm looking into getting a VAXstation 4000/VLC with 24 meg, which should be a little bit more useful for general VMS exploration.. then I could set aside the 3100 more for preservation and "waiting for parts". -Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net)