What I've seen (numerous times) with those double-sided 8" drives is when the drives are shipped/moved without the proper head protecting cardboard inserts, the heads themselves tend to slam against each other every time the truck hits a bump. This causes the heads, which are made of glass, to chip, crack and break. In the most extreme cases, the broken head will actually cut a groove in the media. Look for holes or grooves in your floppies. --T Jam the computer...trash every lethal machine in the land! -- Timothy Leary