15 Jul
1999
15 Jul
'99
12:02 a.m.
Did anyone ever try this:
I have a JVC VHS-C camcorder that has full-auto settings (leveler, focus,
lighting, etc.). It also has a snapshot feature, where it'll capture a
frame.
Use the video camera to take 'pictures', then connect the video output to a
good quality video capture card, and 'capture' the still shots.
Has anyone ever tried this? I was thinking this may be possible, since I
already have the camera, and I can get a vid cap card for about $50
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14 Jul
14 Jul
10:10 p.m.
Did anyone ever try this:
I have a JVC VHS-C camcorder that has full-auto settings (leveler, focus,
lighting, etc.). It also has a snapshot feature, where it'll capture a
frame.
Use the video camera to take 'pictures', then connect the video output to a
good quality video capture card, and 'capture' the still shots.
Has anyone ever tried this? I was thinking this may be possible, since I
already have the camera, and I can get a vid cap card for about $50
It worked OK for me using a Hi8 Canon into a RasterOps Video card in my old
Mac IIx (surprize, on topic reference). I went direct, never tried taping,
used plenty of light, and only static objects (my bare foot actually. As a
joke I uploaded the image to a photo area on Compuserve and got requests
for some more images. Weird people out there.)
15 Jul
15 Jul
5:48 a.m.
New subject: Compuserve (was Re: digital cameras)
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Mike Ford wrote:
joke I uploaded the image to a photo area on Compuserve
and got requests
for some more images. Weird people out there.)
Speaking of Compuserve, what is its history? I'd like to know how it came
to be so popular for technical support bulletin boards. Many Macintosh
products, for example, have a Compuserve keyword in the about: box that
will take one to more info about the product.
--Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com)
http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power
7:16 a.m.
New subject: Compuserve (was Re: digital cameras)
Speaking of Compuserve, what is its history? I'd
like to know how it came
to be so popular for technical support bulletin boards. Many Macintosh
products, for example, have a Compuserve keyword in the about: box that
will take one to more info about the product.
--Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com)
http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power
Well, here's a bit of "history..."
Compuserve started as MicroNet -- an after hours use of the additional
DEC-10 (36 bit) mainframe power of the timeshare operations of
a part of H&R Block (after 7pm). They used any kind of "PC" or terminal
access as long as it spoke ASCII. The supported the first the CIS-A
upload/download protocol, then CIS-B and later picked up support for other
protocols.
They also used System Concepts DEC-10 clones and made their own
power supply upgrades for DEC KL10's.
They began to expand to full day operations (I think> in the early 80's -- but
the user cost was pretty high. PC support for hardware/drivers etc
was picking up on CompuServe -- but originally the main users were
early gamers, cb emulation (what's now called chat or conference rooms>
and stuff like that.
However, you could still get down to an OS level command prompt and
blow off the menus and store your own data on their disks for a fee.
In the 85-86 timeframe they began coming up with their own canned interface
which was kind of Turbo-Pascal IDE like with windows and such and later did
Windows/Mac/OS2 versions. However, they still supported tty stuff until
they pushed to the NT server hosted version they were developing.
That's when I dropped 'em.
I lived in the Vax/PDP11/CPM/OS2 groups until the push to windows and the
AOL takeover moved me from there to the Internet.
Bill
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Three things never anger: First, the one who runs your DEC,
The one who does Field Service and the one who signs your check.
9:47 a.m.
New subject: Compuserve (was Re: digital cameras)
At 10:48 AM 7/15/99 -0400, Max Eskin wrote:
Speaking of Compuserve, what is its history? I'd like to know how it came
to be so popular for technical support bulletin boards.
A good question. The answers may give you insights into why the
Web has succeeded and AOL rose to the top and why Compuserve isn't.
Before the web, in the late 80s and early 90s, Compuserve (CIS) was a
well-run national dial-up network. Apart from e-mail (with Net gateways)
and chat, Compuserve had forums for special interests. These arose
as necessary, but it wasn't as easy publishing a web page. You had
to have the cooperation and contractual agreements with Compuserve,
and then they'd clone their forum software for your new forum.
Forum contract holders (aka syops) got a royalty based on the amount
of time that users were spending in their area. Contract holders
were also given a handful of "free flags" to be given out at their
discretion. This allowed you to give someone free access in your
forum or even the entire CIS system. If CIS was a local call, you'd
pay nothing. This was a tremendous value that easily amounted to
several hundred dollars a month. However, you can bet the contract
holder who gave you your flag was sure to notice that you were
participating in their forum - helping newbies, providing advice,
serving as a reference book, playing nice and being a personality.
The largest forums could generate hundreds of thousands of dollars
a year for the contract holder. They ran them like a business with
staff and offices.
Soon this spun off to third-party support. Some forums would split
off a vendor forum. The vendors got a free flag to give online
support. The sysop made money because people would visit more often.
Compuserve made money.
Soon some companies opened their own forums.
10:16 a.m.
New subject: Compuserve (was Re: digital cameras)
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, John Foust wrote:
Forum contract holders (aka syops) got a royalty based
on the amount
of time that users were spending in their area. Contract holders
were also given a handful of "free flags" to be given out at their
discretion. This allowed you to give someone free access in your
This explains why Compuserve is so much more expensive than AOL.
--Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com)
http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power
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