11 Dec
2004
11 Dec
'04
7:34 a.m.
Hello folks,
I have a question about those TTYs that the deaf use. Are they real
Teletypes, like ASR33 and friends, or not? I guess probably not, because
it would be so super-cool if they were that it's probably too good to
be true, but I thought I would ask anyway. So what are they? Are they
normal ASCII terminals with standard modems built in, or something
entirely different? Can one pretend to be deaf, go to some social service
or whatever agency asking to use a deaf TTY, and dial into a timesharing
host or BBS with it?
It also seems like there are two kinds of deaf devices, TTY and TDD.
What's the difference?
MS
11 Dec
11 Dec
7:51 a.m.
Hello folks,
I have a question about those TTYs that the deaf use. Are they real
Teletypes, like ASR33 and friends, or not? I guess probably not, because
it would be so super-cool if they were that it's probably too good to
be true, but I thought I would ask anyway. So what are they? Are they
normal ASCII terminals with standard modems built in, or something
entirely different? Can one pretend to be deaf, go to some social service
or whatever agency asking to use a deaf TTY, and dial into a timesharing
host or BBS with it?
It also seems like there are two kinds of deaf devices, TTY and TDD.
What's the difference?
MS
I have one of those that used to belong to a friend of mine who taught
deaf children. This one is a real TTY, but not ASR-33. It's the 5 bit
Baudot version from the 1940s, not the 8 bit ASCII.
I saw them use these things before. They hooked up an acoustical
coupler to the phone and dialed someone else who had a TTY. I suppose
instant messaging and other modern technologies have rendered the old
TTYs obsolete.
Ashley
8 a.m.
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Michael Sokolov wrote:
Hello folks,
I have a question about those TTYs that the deaf use. Are they real
Teletypes, like ASR33 and friends, or not? I guess probably not, because
it would be so super-cool if they were that it's probably too good to
be true, but I thought I would ask anyway. So what are they? Are they
normal ASCII terminals with standard modems built in, or something
entirely different?
They ARE Baudot (well, actually Murray) code devices.
SOME of the newest ones ALSO support ASCII.
The communications protocol is CCITT .18? (sorry, can't remember for
sure.)
SOME (few) of the newest ones ALSO support Bell 103, Bell 202, 212, or
even v.90.
Most of the people using them do not understand the difference between
"code" and "communications protocol". Therefore, you will run into a
lot
of confusion about "ASCII is a higher speed than Baudot", etc.
Can one pretend to be deaf, go to some social service
or whatever agency asking to use a deaf TTY, and dial into a timesharing
host or BBS with it?
If you can prove a significant hearing impairment (they
sometimes want an
audiogram, and an audiologists signature), you can get a long term free
loan of one. For a long time, there has been a tiny surcharge on all
phone service to pay for those programs.
Any large bank of payphones is SUPPOSED to include at least one - try your
nearest large airport.
They often show up at flea markets (often borrowed ones that weren't
returned.)
There is also software available to emulate one with certain "voice"
modems.
It also seems like there are two kinds of deaf
devices, TTY and TDD.
What's the difference?
"politically correct" name change.
"Teletype" v "Telecommunications Device for the Deaf" NO difference.
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