18 Nov
1997
18 Nov
'97
9:57 a.m.
At 09:04 11/18/97 +0000, you wrote:
I've never understood this love of screwdriver-less
cases. If I'm going to
be fixing a computer I'm going to have a soldering station, scope, logic
analyser, cutters, etc with me. So having a screwdriver set is no big deal
either.
Wellll....I wouldn't mind a fastener that gave me the choice, like some
kind of knurled goodie with a screwdriver slot. That would cover the case
where I'm at someone's house for dinner, and they say "Oh, BTW, my
computer's not working," and I didn't bring a screwdriver and they don't
own a #2 Phillips.
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Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
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Computer History Association of California
18 Nov
18 Nov
9:32 a.m.
At 09:04 11/18/97 +0000, you wrote:
Heh, many do not know that phillips size and I tell some techs
that
you only need 1 and 2 and most computers especially use
number 2. And carry 8, 10, 15 and 20 Torx screwdrivers.
I love to have at least 1 or 2 screws to take cover off. Once in a
while I have to face a midtower with 8 screws on back and few old
computers w/ endless screws and poor design as well! UGH.
Ok I forgot to tell one thing about ease of use in computers: the
Rainbow series. The nice looking computer is NeXT.
Troll
I've never understood this love of
screwdriver-less cases. If I'm going to
be fixing a computer I'm going to have a soldering station, scope, logic
analyser, cutters, etc with me. So having a screwdriver set is no big deal
either.
Wellll....I wouldn't mind a fastener that gave me the choice, like some
kind of knurled goodie with a screwdriver slot. That would cover the case
where I'm at someone's house for dinner, and they say "Oh, BTW, my
computer's not working," and I didn't bring a screwdriver and they
don't
own a #2 Phillips. __________________________________________
Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
http://www.chac.org/index.html
Computer History Association of California
19 Nov
19 Nov
7:48 a.m.
where I'm
at someone's house for dinner, and they say "Oh, BTW, my
computer's not working," and I didn't bring a screwdriver and they
don't
own a #2 Phillips.
Heh, many do not know that phillips size and I tell some techs
that
you only need 1 and 2 and most computers especially use number 2. And carry 8, 10, 15 and 20 Torx
screwdrivers.
Add to that list a #6 and #9 Torx, Allen keys (including 9/64" which is
not in most sets sold in the UK), tamperproof Torx (if you want to open
monitors and PSUs), etc. Oh, a set of nutdrivers (at least the 3/16" and
1/4" sizes) will fit the screws used in the original PC family and are a
lot easier to handle than a flat-blade screwdriver.
I love to have at least 1 or 2 screws to take cover
off. Once in a
while I have to face a midtower with 8 screws on back and few old
computers w/ endless screws and poor design as well! UGH.
Never worked on a DECSA (a terminal server from the early 1980's), right?
That thing is crazy. Most bits come out with (at most) a couple of screws,
but if you want to remove the fan tray (needed to get the backplane out),
you have to remove a plate over it first. Said plate is held down my _28_
screws!
Ok I forgot to tell one thing about ease of use in computers: the
Rainbow series. The nice looking computer is NeXT.
The Rainbow, Pro series and DECmate 2 are very easy to pull to bits,
agreed. I once dismantled one on a train, much to the amazement of the
people sitting near me.
Troll
-tony
7:41 a.m.
On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Kip Crosby wrote:
Wellll....I wouldn't mind a fastener that gave me
the choice, like some
kind of knurled goodie with a screwdriver slot. That would cover the case
I can't stand knurled-head screws without a screwdriver slot. Those darn
things are always too tight to undo by hand, and grabbing them with pliers
often marks the surface.
Actually I _like_ TORX screws, etc. They are easy to engage on the
screwdriver, don't 'cam out' (like a Phillips), don't slide out (like a
normal screwdriver), stay on the end of the tool, etc.
where I'm at someone's house for dinner, and
they say "Oh, BTW, my
computer's not working," and I didn't bring a screwdriver and they
don't
own a #2 Phillips.
And just what are you coing to do when you've pulled the cover? Unless
it's just a board/cable that needs reseating you're going to need some
test equipment, a soldering iron, etc anyway. I have _never_ been anywhere
with that sort of equipment and not had a screwdriver with me.
Heck, if I was in somebody else's house I'd probably have my trusty
Leatherman with me.
Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
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