22 Jan
2015
22 Jan
'15
4:20 p.m.
Just received the following "equipment available" email..
Vax 8600
MicroVax II
8mm & 4mm SCSI tape drives
6250 tape drive
Dec 64 bit unix
first DEC PC (Rainbow) with graphics card (1984)
a lot of manuals
an IBM AIX box too
Location is Houston, TX.
DO NOT EMAIL ME ASKING FOR MORE SPECIFICS. If you are interested in *ALL* of
the gear, contact me off list and I'll put you in direct contact with the
owner.
If you want just PART of the gear, do not email me. Email whoever winds up
getting the gear and work it out with them.
Best,
J
22 Jan
22 Jan
5:08 p.m.
On 2015-01-22 22:20, Jay West wrote:
Just received the following "equipment
available" email..
Vax 8600
MicroVax II
8mm & 4mm SCSI tape drives
6250 tape drive
Dec 64 bit unix
first DEC PC (Rainbow) with graphics card (1984)
a lot of manuals
an IBM AIX box too
Location is Houston, TX.
DO NOT EMAIL ME ASKING FOR MORE SPECIFICS. If you are interested in *ALL* of
the gear, contact me off list and I'll put you in direct contact with the
owner.
If you want just PART of the gear, do not email me. Email whoever winds up
getting the gear and work it out with them.
Just as a warning: a VAX 8600 is *heavy*. You will need a truck with a
tailgate lift, and be at least two, if not three people to move it. You
will not be able to lift it by hand, even if you are plenty of people.
(And yes, I'd like to get the memory boards and other small bits of it,
but I doubt anyone will pick it up to start with, and even less that
anyone would part things out if they did indeed pick it up.)
Johnny
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|| on a psychedelic trip
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23 Jan
23 Jan
10:55 a.m.
New subject: Equipment Available (really VAX 8600)
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015, Jay West wrote:
Just received the following "equipment
available" email..
...
Vax 8600
...
MicroVax II
...
Coinicidently, my employer purchased a VAX 8600 (running VMS) and a
VAX-11/785 running Ultrix in 1985 and I was reading the tender for its
purchase last week.
In 1985 an educational institution could get a VAX 8600, VAX/VMS 4.7,
umpteen layered products, and a three years hardware/software support
agreement for CDN$1,034,000.00 and a VAX-11/785 with Ultrix and layered
products for around $400,000.00.
The purchase All-In-One was $35,000.00!!! Coo Lummey!
Four years later the 8600 (now an 8650) was replaced by a VAX 8820 for
an additional $1.2 million.
The VAX 8820 ran a MicroVAX II as its boot/management console but I cannot
remember what did that job for the 8600. Was it a MicroVAX II? If so, then
anybody wishing to haul away the 8600 will also want the MicroVAX II...
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
11:22 a.m.
New subject: Equipment Available (really VAX 8600)
On 2015-01-23 17:14, Al Kossow wrote:
On 1/23/15 7:55 AM, Richard Loken wrote:
Nope. The 86x0 machines have a built-in PDP-11.
Some 8000 machines did have PROs, though.
Johnny
The VAX 8820 ran a MicroVAX II as its
boot/management console but I
cannot
remember what did that job for the 8600. Was it a MicroVAX II?
pro 350
12:03 p.m.
New subject: Equipment Available (really VAX 8600)
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015, Al Kossow wrote:
On 1/23/15 7:55 AM, Richard Loken wrote:
Who would have thought! It fits into the theory we had at the time that
Digital used whatever small machine was overstocked at the warehouse...
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
The VAX 8820 ran a MicroVAX II as its
boot/management console but I cannot
remember what did that job for the 8600. Was it a MicroVAX II?
pro 350
11:21 a.m.
New subject: Equipment Available (really VAX 8600)
On 2015-01-23 16:55, Richard Loken wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015, Jay West wrote:
Thanks for that information. Pretty cool. Lots of money...
Just received the following "equipment
available" email..
...
Vax 8600
...
MicroVax II
...
Coinicidently, my employer purchased a VAX 8600 (running VMS) and a
VAX-11/785 running Ultrix in 1985 and I was reading the tender for its
purchase last week.
In 1985 an educational institution could get a VAX 8600, VAX/VMS 4.7,
umpteen layered products, and a three years hardware/software support
agreement for CDN$1,034,000.00 and a VAX-11/785 with Ultrix and layered
products for around $400,000.00.
The purchase All-In-One was $35,000.00!!! Coo Lummey!
Four years later the 8600 (now an 8650) was replaced by a VAX 8820 for
an additional $1.2 million. The VAX 8820 ran a MicroVAX II as its boot/management
console but I cannot
remember what did that job for the 8600. Was it a MicroVAX II? If so, then
anybody wishing to haul away the 8600 will also want the MicroVAX II...
No. The 86x0 machines have a built-in PDP-11 for the front end. This
PDP-11 has its own Q-bus inside the VAX, and on that sits a RLV12
controller, with the FE RL02 disk pack, on which all microcode,
diagnostics, tools, and the FE console handling software resides. (It is
actually a specially tailored RT-11 system.)
If anyone, anywhere, plans on running an 86x0, please contact me. Unless
you really know what you are doing, chances are that you will not manage
to get the machine running, or that you'll break it in short order.
Important things to know: The machine *really* needs 3-phase. And the
phases have to be ordered right. The blowers are 3-phase motors, and
they create a small storm behind the machine. The machine is all ECL,
and really need the cooling, or else it will break. The RL02 is critical
for operation of the machine. All the microcode is loaded at boot time
from the PDP-11 into the VAX.
The VAX have a
battery back unit for RTC. Chances are that the batteries
have gone bad if the machine have been in storage. They are 12V lead
batteries. Without healthy batteries the machine will not start up.
There is a jumper you can install to get around this, but it's not
documented anywhere.
All that said, it is my favorite model of all time (although maybe a VAX
9000 would beat it, if I ever would have a chance to play with one...)
Johnny
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